Immich 3.0

134 pointsposted 9 hours ago
by hashier

47 Comments

Cider9986

2 hours ago

When I was switching to GrapheneOS from iOS, I decided to self host my photos. I considered Immich, but I settled on Ente because of the encryption. Ente Photos is extremely polished and it's comparable quality to Apple photos.

It's cool they keep the server open and selfhostable instead of only open clients like many e2ee projects do.

I like how you can share an album and anyone can contribute to it without an account. Another cool feature is that you can select photos to lock when you hand your phone to somebody so they can only see the ones you selected without your device unlock.

kristopolous

an hour ago

for people wondering:

"Ente Photos is a paid service, but we offer 10GB of free storage. You can also >>clone this repository and choose to self-host<<."

So both forms...

https://github.com/ente/ente

oliyoung

42 minutes ago

Immich is such a no-brainer replacement for Apple Photos or Google Photos, combined with VPN like Tailscale, it's almost a drop in replacement

psadauskas

an hour ago

Has the ios photo sync gotten better? I've got 20k photos on my phone, and last I tried it filled up the storage on my phone with the originals, and never completed the process, even after leaving my phone open, unlocked, and the immich app running in the foreground for several days, on the same local network as the server.

I know they were working on it, but haven't kept up, I just want to know if it works better now and I should try again.

Lukas_Skywalker

27 minutes ago

I have synced ~9000 photos from my phone in february. That worked pretty well. I was done in about 10 hours. I don't remember whether the originals were downloaded, or whether they were deleted automatically afterwards. Felt like a smooth process though.

gunapologist99

23 minutes ago

Likely more of an IOS issue than Immich issue. Apple doesn't care for apps that make it easier to exit iCloud.

azuanrb

16 minutes ago

No, it’s an Immich issue. Not OP, but I was already using Synology Photos. Synology finished syncing my library in two days, while Immich was still syncing after more than a week. I decided it wasn’t worth it after that experience.

thenews

11 minutes ago

Immich is amazing, been using it as a backup since my phone is always full

phikappa

6 hours ago

There's a lot of things I spent a ton of time setting up, use once, and then never again. Tons of things that are easy to set up, and provide small benefits every day for a long time. Immich has got to be the thing that I've spent ages setting up, use extremely infrequently but the one time a year I use it I'm so happy I did. Great software.

nickthegreek

3 hours ago

Man, I wish my experience was as nice. I used the proxmox lxc for it and after a 2 months of organizing I had some corruption and didn't have the fortitude to get through the debugging. It might have been related to a big version migration if I remember correctly. It turned me off the stack. The upgrading wasn't as turnkey as I wanted it to be and I dont think the case is different today.

I just want to be able to organize my folders outside of some dumb library system and immich at the time fought that as well.

Saris

32 minutes ago

In proxmox restoring a backup is really easy, I'm surprised you didn't do that!

ravenstine

2 hours ago

I'm not sure I will ever upgrade Immich again. When I upgraded to the next minor version (I forget which off the top of my head), the data migration corrupted my database such that no images would be served. Fortunately I had the old database backed up, so I restored it, rolled back to the older version of Immich, and things were back to normal. I like Immich, but this is not good for software that's beyond the first major version, and also handles archiving people's personal data.

drdexebtjl

an hour ago

> Fortunately I had the old database backed up

You say this as if it wasn’t Immich itself that backed up the database automatically next to your image files.

I think they’re one of the best self-hosted services when it comes to backup/restore — enabling it by default — and when it comes to migrations — no breaking changes in minor versions after 1.0.

Did you report this issue so I could try and reproduce it?

stavros

an hour ago

I had an issue where my thumbnails were borked somehow, so I deleted them all. However, I didn't delete the database entries, so they never got regenerated.

I ended up doing that manually, but it's great to see that is now a first class citizen in 3.0.0. I love Immich.

MohamedMabrouk

3 hours ago

Immich is an amazing software. I use it regularly as an alternative along side Google photos. I keep in it large videos that I wouldn't upload normally to Google photos + the snappy experience at home vs Cloud-Bades solution.

brewtide

2 hours ago

Does anyone have any pointers on the best way to import roughly 14 Google takeout chunks into immich?

I've downloaded all the chunks once, only to find them corrupted due to... Their 50gb size and using a browser in theory. One also cannot seem to use wget or alternatives because of the auth / session cookies required via Google takeout.

I've yet to even broach the aspect of importing each giant bundle into immich because I've not had success in even grabbing the takeout files correctly, but would LOVE pointers on the best way of importing the roughly 700gb into the database without it ALL going wrong.

I've had great success with immich running in docker for the past year or so, although I have yet to upgrade to the newest version. Google photos backups have been disabled on my phone for a year or so, but I yet to haul in all of the past years.

Also, anyone know if I can get immich to upload the photos without... Running immich once in a while? Would be great if it just automatically sent them to "my cloud".

Great software.

cbrews

31 minutes ago

If you can get all the images into a filesystem (on a NAS or similar server share), you can use the External Libraries feature in Immich (https://docs.immich.app/features/libraries/). This allows it to crunch through the media files via an async import job (a bit more reliable than having to directly upload via the web api).

In my setup, I exclusively use the external libraries feature, pointed at a read-only share from my NAS mounted onto my Immich server. (The external libraries are set to resynchronize to the database every few hours). This means I can manage all my media assets myself without worrying about Immich accidentally corrupting them, and if I eventually move off Immich, I just have a single folder of media files organized by date to port around.

The only downside is that I don't directly upload any media files directly to Immich, but that's okay. I have Syncopoli sync files from my phones (on a scheduled cadence) to an intermediary server which organizes and cleans exif data from media files before dropping it into its permanent home on my NAS share. No manual steps to get photos from my phone to my Immich instance!

conception

an hour ago

Just a quick note that native windows extract is 32bit and dies on archives gt 4gb. Use 7zip or something to extract in case you happen to be using that one.

etnoy

2 hours ago

immich-go has what you need

DavideNL

4 hours ago

I don't want yet another self hosted service to manage (update, backups, possible hardware failures, energy costs, ups, etc.).

Unfortunately Immich is not end-to-end encrypted. If that would have be the case i'd use https://pixelunion.eu/

Seems like a great app though. So... i'm still pondering what to do :-)

FabCH

an hour ago

What do you mean Immich is not end-to-end encrypted? You control both ends, you can encrypt it any way you want…

olejorgenb

39 minutes ago

They said they only want to control one of the ends

FabCH

4 minutes ago

Fair enough, but the Immich provider they link to also uses SSL and claims to encrypt at rest.

It they don’t consider that e2e encrypted, literally nothing is then…

mcsniff

4 hours ago

Okay? So don't use it, use a managed service like Google Photos, Apple Photos, Dropbox, etc where your photos and files might be arbitrarily removed or your access to them limited while they are scanned for disavowed content.

You can also just use a secure transport layer (like WireGuard or a VPN) instead of relying on every project to implement end-to-end encryption.

brokensegue

33 minutes ago

it's really not much to manage assuming you are already doing backups. you ~ pay the energy cost either way.

BeetleB

20 minutes ago

Lessons from using self hosted image services years ago:

- Upgrade breaks things. Need to restore from DB, install previous version, etc.

- Need to update frequently (i.e. if I wait 2 years, the upgrade script doesn't work).

- Discovering a corruption months/years later. Some data just lost by that point.

- Backward incompatible changes

Of course, if you need the features, by all means use it. I just want to back up my photos and use FolderSync daily. I have a separate workflow for pruning. As long as FolderSync (or some similar app) exists, I know this flow will work 10 years from now (heck, I've been using it for almost as long). No time spent worrying about upgrading, etc.

amelius

an hour ago

> I don't want yet another self hosted service to manage

Isn't system administration a solved problem now with LLMs? At least for these simple problem domains?

gonzalohm

3 hours ago

So if you don't want a self hosted service there are tons of cloud providers. Google photos, iCloud, etc. Some people don't want to pay a monthly fee to store their photos or don't want to risk losing something with sentimental value just because a company decides to ban you

Jhsto

4 hours ago

You can use https://ente.com/ (it's open-source). It also makes the seemingly much better decision of storing photos in S3.

gonzalohm

3 hours ago

The point of Immich is self hosting. Using AWS defeats that purpose

jasonvorhe

2 hours ago

S3 has many open implementations you can self host. Some are quite lean even. Unless you need really complex IAM stuff it's a solid and rather simple experience to run it.

gonzalohm

2 hours ago

Yeah but Immich provides a lot more features than just storage

fragmede

2 hours ago

Perfect is the enemy of the good. While there's an ideal case where you're hosting it on a box in your house, that's not for everybody. So while hosting it on AWS doesn't remove every dependency on big tech, at least it's not a full on Google hosted SaaS product.

gonzalohm

2 hours ago

I think "perfect is the enemy of good" is actually an argument against AWS integration. Using S3 as a backend is a lot more complex than using local storage so it would take a lot more time to implement, that's why local storage is good enough

buster

3 hours ago

+1 for Ente. Replaced Google photos for me

tamimio

an hour ago

You can have immich on truenas that has the whole pool encrypted, same goes with opencloud for other docs/files. Plus all nas backup features, I think it’s a better approach than dealing with each app encryption.

Edit: regarding cloud based backup, besides the usual privacy and security concerns, you can’t guarantee the fixed price, you might subscribe now and pay for a year, next year you have the typical “oops, operation cost are high we have to raise the prices or shutdown” blog post and now you’re stuck again, download, find another, upload, etc.

jrm4

4 hours ago

VPN (or other) Tunnel.

That's the objective answer. There's no mystery here. That's exactly how you get what you want and it's not too hard. Not trying to dunk on you or anyone one but this is an easily solved problem, and I think I want to highlight it like this to make sure everyone understands.

Anything web/internet/network service thing, you can add this on. This composability is important to remember in software, this even goes back to "The Unix Way" type stuff.

ravenstine

2 hours ago

It's also a kind of funny thing how HN has the attitude of "never implement your own encrypted anything" but then demand their apps build in e2e encryption. It may be one abstraction higher, but it's still fundamentally the same problem. With the unfortunate exception of web browsers, if I'm going to use something that performs encryption, then I want encryption to be the only job it has.

PhilipRoman

an hour ago

How are VPNs related to end-to-end encryption?

nicce

37 minutes ago

Their primary purpose is usually encrypt the connection between different endpoints… by creating virtual private networks…

tamimio

an hour ago

I believe OP meant at rest encryption, meaning, just because someone had an access to your physical drive doesn’t mean they can browse your pics.

mopsi

4 hours ago

Does Immich support read-only source folders yet? I'd like to keep the original files intact, but allow Immich to index them.

zyberzero

4 hours ago

Yes, at least for a year. There is a ”external library” feature, I think that does what you want.

mopsi

4 hours ago

Thank you! That was not available the last time I checked.

bo0tzz

3 hours ago

It's been available for nearly three years

etnoy

an hour ago

Yes, using external libraries. It's been a feature for several years. Make it read-only by mounting docker compose read only