showerst
2 days ago
Amazon, Walmart, Etsy... my kingdom for a marketplace that doesn't become just a dumping ground for shady fly-by-night dropshippers.
topgrain2
2 days ago
This has pushed me to high levels of brand loyalty with direct ordering from the brands I like and trust, plus a lot of buying used… also mostly products from a handful of trusted brands (this is largely clothes, nearly all of which I buy used except socks, underwear, and most sweaters)
account42
2 days ago
To bad that the actual buying experience (once you have selected what to buy) is still so much better with Amazon.
* One cart for everything you need to order
* Fairly predictable shipping and tracking, especially for FBA stuff vs. the random shipping companies vs random shippers you have never heard about or weird shipping options selected by the seller (i.e. ID checks required where that makes no sense at all, preventing the carrier from just dropping the package at the door when you're not home)
* Global shipping with tariffs/fees included in the checkout price - brand stores often don't even ship at all outside their operational area
* The ability to get your money back with high confidence when there are problems vs. smaller sellers that just ghost you.
Amazon has been doing their best to reduce these advantages by making it harder to report problems with orders and also having more sellers that do their own unpredictable shipping.
port11
5 hours ago
I’m done with Amazon, but unless something changed in the past year, buying through them is actually inconvenient.
The return experience is great, because it has to be. You buy so much crap because of drop-shippers and their search is atrocious due to paid placement.
If you know what you want (a Thermoscan was one of my last purchases), it can be cheaper to go elsewhere, you don’t deal with their search “engine”, and you don’t help Bezos buy the next election. My context is European, but I really don’t agree that Amazon is that great anymore.
There’s plenty of stuff I find cheaper in other places, plus I’ll know it’s authentic and not a drop-shipped counterfeit. Amazon was tremendous once, but that’s gone.
Henchman21
a day ago
I also direct order from brands I trust and this hasn't been my experience AT ALL. In fact using Apple Pay with an AMEX card means the experience is essentially amazing -- fingerprint checkout and the ability to reverse the charge with Amex is all I really need.
Of course, I'm still using Apple Pay, so that may not work for everyone.
alexpotato
2 days ago
Thermoworks (which makes excellent thermometers) no longer sells on Amazon b/c there were too many counterfeits/people selling broken items etc.
You can now only order from their website which I am more than happy to do as their customer service is excellent.
grogenaut
2 days ago
https://www.amazon.com/stores/ThermoWorks
actually... they gave up a while ago and have an amazon store.. it's been a few years IIRC
Henchman21
a day ago
That is a 404 for me, in the US.
grogenaut
19 hours ago
https://www.amazon.com/stores/ThermoWorks/page/4D6BCE63-39FE... apparently... sorry I didn't re click but you can also just search the brand and go to the brand store on amazon.
ProllyInfamous
a day ago
I was an eBay PowerSeller 1999-2004 (the era of primarily accepting money orders). I don't even recognize that platform, anymore (perhaps one purchase, every few years, now – some diamond-in-the-rough rarity, unavailable elsewhere).
I closed my Amazon account, a few years ago, for similar reasons (both platforms seem to become the dumping grounds for brokens, defectives, and otherwise abandonables).
Most items I'll now purchase in-person, at a store – I want to feel the clothing's thickness, smell the hardware's newness, and/or pay more for warranted IRL customer support. Mandatory in-person purchases are memory (RAM or SSD), only because they have a supplier chain-of-custody, without mixed seller bins (which Amazon is attempting to resolve, albeit decades too late IMHO).
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Random shoutout to Duluth Trading Company (not-affiliated, no stock owned – just a great brand): I drive 2.5 hours round-trip, once a year, to visit one of their clothing stores. If you haven't worn their firehose contractor pants, you're missing out on the incredibility of 3% spandex pants – thick, breathable, don't tear... and when you feel them in person you will absolutely not care about their pricetag. They have traditional US wwXhh mens-sizing, but also three separate "fits" (tightnesses).
If you're a fattietradesman (like me), trying things on is essential. Really glad to see certainly higher-end storefronts "coming back," as these customers demand quality.
Just wish they sold computers – although I did visit my first MicroCenter, recently: WOW! (Reminiscent of early-2000s Fry's Electronics, but smaller/better).
JKCalhoun
2 days ago
Don't allow 3rd party sellers?
giarc
2 days ago
I think that is key. I used to browse Best Buy's website for various electronics and it was typically pretty good. I knew that somewhere, a Best Buy product buyer was evaluating the products with at least a minimum set of expectations. Then they opened their marketplace to 3rd party sellers and it's the same low cost, low quality crap on every other site.
ProllyInfamous
a day ago
I walked into a Best Buy, last summer, and the prominent retail location (i.e. right when you enter the store) had BBQ Grills for sale... not just one option, there were several sizes and configurations.
And somehow no local retailer had a corded phone (had to order off Amazon, unfortunately... friend's account) – not even the local telco! Exception: expensive fax machines (?!), with attached corded handset – in 2026.
port11
5 hours ago
This sounds so obvious…Decathlon’s and Leroy Merlin’s 3rd-party sellers made their webshops a nightmare. Why would I go to Decathlon to buy from 3rd parties? We already had, like, 200 marketplaces for that.
jonhohle
2 days ago
But then how could you skim off the top of other people’s work?
lotsofpulp
2 days ago
But then how could you compete for customers when they are all visiting the other websites to save a few dollars?
port11
5 hours ago
We get NAÏF and other stuff from our kid directly from the brand. Sure, their websites are a bit lame and you gotta make a few accounts, but we end up getting nice promotions and good service.
The alternative is “here’s 450 other matches to your search that are definitely not what you’re looking for, that may be counterfeit, and may or may not give your kid dermatitis.”
I think some companies should lean more into that. We’ll pay for shipping if it spares us from those “skimming off the top”.
Poacher5
a day ago
B&Q in the UK went exactly the same way - used to be pretty reliable, and I didn't mind paying the extra to have all the things a home DIYer might need without going to half a dozen different builder's merchants and trade suppliers. Then they opened their store page up to anyone who wanted to list anything even tangentially related to home improvements and predictably it's a huge heap of drop-shipped rubbish and it's all been SEO'ed to the Nth degree to appear higher in the search rankings than anything actually sold by B&Q.
geraldcombs
2 days ago
It depends on the brand, but a lot of the stuff I buy is available directly from the manufacturer's site, usually via Shop Pay.
fehu22
2 days ago
Most of the amazon sellers package trash and send to many people broken items ETC amazon is losing its name in India