County with 37 Data Centers Asks Schools to 'Conserve Electricity'

56 pointsposted 37 minutes ago
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26 Comments

scottndecker

25 minutes ago

If everyone turned off their lights 100% of the time they left their workstation, they could power those additional data centers for about one second.

burnte

13 minutes ago

Billionaries are willing to have us make that sacrifice!

skeeter2020

11 minutes ago

not to mention you'll get much farther, faster & easier with timers on the lights than some sort of 100% voluntary participation dream.

dylan604

4 minutes ago

ever been in a room of people sitting in cubicles where the lights are controlled by motion sensor to automatically turn off the lights after a set period of no motion? fun times. it took way longer to get that switch replaced than it should have

emsign

7 minutes ago

"Who needs public schools anyway? I pay my kid's teachers salary directly."

zamadatix

7 minutes ago

I think the issues are exacerbated by the US going from "regular growth in electricity generation" for decades to "dead flat" for the last ~2 decades. I think we're finding generation isn't just a switch you turn on and reap the benefits of overnight if it's not what you were already planning on doing https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e...

Part of solving that may be in what the article touches on - how to get the generation built before the DC shows up rather than as a promise after.

preinheimer

25 minutes ago

You want to use a lot of electricity? Great! We sell electricity. We will need cash in advance to handle some upgrades, rather than passing those costs on to other rate payers.

malshe

5 minutes ago

Maybe the county could just ask its employees to work from home so that its office electricity bill goes down to zero. A win-win solution!

rdtsc

21 minutes ago

The ~spice~ inference must flow.

Some of the data centers now run disconnected on gas turbines 24/7, which is better for electricity prices but they can be big nuisance for people living nearby.

culi

4 minutes ago

It is also often a violation of the Clean Air Act but we don't have good regulation in place to actually hold them accountable

arjie

22 minutes ago

Interestingly, San Francisco has built no more of these AI datacenters and has seen a rate hike larger than that over the last few years. If we could at least get a few more datacenters that would be nice considering the rate hikes approved here.

culi

6 minutes ago

First of all, the grid is interconnected. Some random city building an AI datacenter could absolutely trigger price increases in a different part of the state. Second of all, Novva Data Centers is in fact building a $500m campus. In addition to all that is that the war against Iran is causing electricity prices to spike basically everywhere. PG&E is also currently modernizing its grid and doing wildfire hardening across the state. The solar subsidies has also meant that grid subsidization costs have been shifted onto non-solar customers.

Quinner

11 minutes ago

That's because San Francisco subsidizes the rest of the state, PG&E is a state-wide utility. San Francisco is attempting to run its own utility, but is meeting resistance from PG&E and the parts of the state SF subsidizes.

cmiles8

18 minutes ago

Well I think the problem there is called “welcome to California.”

malshe

7 minutes ago

I love California and occasionally think about moving there. But the cost of living considerations bring me back to reality. Despite all its problems, it's difficult to leave Texas due to the low cost of living (and HEB!)

butterfi

5 minutes ago

I might argue that we already have data centers, we just call then Colo Facilities.

dylan604

3 minutes ago

I'd imagine your normal Colo facility uses a lot less power than an AI data center.

cdrnsf

34 minutes ago

Unplug the data centers instead.

cmiles8

21 minutes ago

Do we scale back AI slop for a few days or pull power back from schools? Easy, kids can suffer, give them some ice water.

The AI bubble can’t pop soon enough.

gadflyinyoureye

7 minutes ago

Maybe it would help remove unless and harmful tech from schools. Books don't need batteries.

jeffbee

26 minutes ago

Virginia (Dominion) electric rates went up dramatically, and are now in the same rough price band as 29 other states, because they were well below average. Important context, in my humble opinion.

gedy

11 minutes ago

We can't leave money on the table for all those below average prices - so let's raise them all to the average... oh wait

markvdb

28 minutes ago

Conserving energy makes sense regardless of nearby data center electricity consumption.

JohnFen

6 minutes ago

True. But asking schools to conserve electricity while encouraging data centers to waste it is perverse.

jeffbee

25 minutes ago

Yes, absolutely. This memo implies that with the same measures they could have saved 80% of the amount, regardless of the rate change. If that is significant they should have done this long ago.