Scientists find molecular-level evidence for two structures in liquid water

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by wglb

16 Comments

le-mark

an hour ago

Somewhat related is the hydration shell around molecules especially proteins. It’s been shown that semi structured water around proteins help guide molecules to reaction sites. Water is an amazing thing!

VladVladikoff

2 hours ago

>The boundary between them is thought to terminate at a "second critical point." This deeply supercooled region is so hard to study experimentally because water crystallizes rapidly

This sounds like the type of thing that could be used for some future technology that doesn’t exist yet and I can’t comprehend. Some sort of process that takes advantage of being in this second critical state.

mefistofeles

an hour ago

Sadly paper is behind paywall. But I question the choosing of the water model to be a 4-site, and why that specific 4-site one (TIP4P) instead of others that have shown to be more accurate such as OPC. Also, there seem to be previous experimental work (https://arxiv.org/abs/1304.2877) showing some evidence that apparently is not even referenced in this new paper. I wonder how does that compare, if at all.

boothby

an hour ago

So if liquid water is really a mixture of water and water, is it safe to say that this paper establishes that water is wet?

jagged-chisel

26 minutes ago

Only if the molecules have a hydration shell

potatosalad99

2 hours ago

So the OTA firmware updates on my dehumidifier for when they discover a new kind of water will come in handy after all!

felooboolooomba

an hour ago

Nah, IFIFY: So the OTA firmware updates on my dehumidifier is for when they make a new kind of dehumidifier that they want me to buy!

harimau777

2 hours ago

It would be hilarious if homeopathy turned out to be right!

(To be clear, I don't think that will actually happen, but it would be hilarious if it did!)

vermilingua

35 minutes ago

You can be sure they’ll start using this paper as “evidence” all the same.

aand16

an hour ago

Don't know about right, but for a while it worked better than "regular" medicine. At least it wouldn't kill you, when the alternative was intensive bloodlettings and purgatives.

hyperhello

2 hours ago

Homeopathic medicine is already recommended by 1 out of 1000000000000000000 doctors.

etchalon

an hour ago

Stealing this forever.

OutOfHere

an hour ago

There is no basis to suggest that any product uses this property of water. As for homeopathy, it isn't one thing. The effects, if any, can vary greatly by the substance and the concentration. Some low-dilution products work and many high-dilution products don't. There is such a thing as excessive dilution. Anyone who is painting a simpler picture of it is almost certainly wrong.

cwmoore

an hour ago

Great to see progress on ice-9 /s