Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside the UK

19 pointsposted 13 hours ago
by ColinWright

11 Comments

cpressland

an hour ago

I’m already using policy based routing on UniFi to send OSA censored websites, imgur for example, via Mullvad VPN - it works for the most part, but for any IPv6 websites it completely breaks as UniFi doesn’t support policy based routes for IPv6.

If the government blocks Mullvad then I’ll just switch to Wireguard on a Helsinki based VPS via Hetzner.

nemoniac

3 hours ago

“The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.”

-- John Gilmore (probably https://quoteinvestigator.com/2021/07/12/censor/)

globular-toast

an hour ago

There is no "Net" any more. There probably never was really. The internet protocols were designed for resilience from the start. A key to that is packet-switching over circuit-switching. But this thing we call the "internet" today? This thing where more and more nodes can't even speak directly to each other and nobody even cares (see IPv6)? This thing where 90% of traffic goes to a few large multinationals? It's not that. We have no resistance to censorship.

globular-toast

6 hours ago

I'm considering the same thing. I've done the "contact your MP" thing, but it's a waste of time. You just receive a pre-written letter from some minimum wage assistant (or maybe just a bot).

It's either that or I just consider the internet dead and move on. It's nothing like it was 20 years ago anyway. There are other things to do. Many books to read and places to go. We had something really cool and we were lucky to experience it while it lasted, but it's gone now.

verzali

an hour ago

Depends on your MP. I have received surprisingly detailed responses to some of my past letters.

If they can't be arsed to answer you, then you shouldn't be arsed to vote for them, at least in my opinion.

echelon_musk

4 hours ago

> consider the internet dead and move on. It's nothing like it was 20 years ago anyway. There are other things to do. Many books to read and places to go. We had something really cool and we were lucky to experience it while it lasted, but it's gone now.

I'm pretty much at this stage too. The web/internet was a frontier like the Wild West. But those wild days are gone and are never coming back. Cyberspace has been settled.

phatfish

5 hours ago

"people under 16", you mean children right?

"who also have the rights to freedom of expression and privacy", plenty of outlets for people to be expressive in the UK (more so than in the US for example, where the right wing will obviously attack any social media restrictions) that don't involve being fed junk divisive content from mainly US tech companies.

Privacy != anonymity.

Feel free to route your traffic via Wireguard. As long as it is not setup as a service for the mass evasion of age gates by children.

NVHacker

5 hours ago

Nice try ! But the fact that the solution to protecting children comes with the maximum boost of government powers in the online world (across the set of all possible ways to protect children) is not a coincidence.

like_any_other

4 hours ago

> Privacy != anonymity.

Exactly. You can have your own misgivings about the UK government at home, in private, and share them with no-one. Or you can share them on the online public square, knowing the UK government will know exactly who wrote them. Good thing they never abuse their power of prosecution!

dofm

an hour ago

The government literally doesn't prosecute anyone.

It is done by the CPS, which operates independently of government and the police.

If I were a betting man I'd place a bet that you are further misinformed about the prosecutions you believe are happening and why. But I am not.

CommanderData

2 hours ago

The camp who think VPNs and Tor are a solution to government policies feel like disinformation at times.

VPNs are trivial to ban, the IP space is well known, Wireguard is easily to fingerprint and block.

It will be a cat and mouse game, if the government looses this they'll simply make it illegal to be caught using a VPN including Tor. Which is on the table.

The only way this changes is a less crap party, but almost all including Reform are in favour of more censorship.