> You can’t jump up and down screaming how amazing, powerful, and dangerous your new tech is and then act surprised and annoyed when the government shows up looking to regulate it.

True, you can't. But, you can think certain regulations are helpful and certain other regulations are not. And you can be annoyed when unhelpful "regulations" are put in place.

This is like if I say that pitbulls are dangerous, and then the government comes and shoots my pitbull, who I've spent a lot of effort training to not be dangerous. Then you say "well you said pitbulls were dangerous, so you can't really complain." Well, I can complain because If you took me seriously, you wouldn't have responded by shooting only my pitbull!

Think of what incentives this creates for other people. Do you think that OpenAI will be candid about the possible dangers of their technology now? They might not even release it now, seeing that Anthropic releasing their model was what got it export-controlled.

Well Anthropic would love some regulatory capture.

Dog caught the car

> You can’t jump up and down screaming how amazing, powerful, and dangerous your new tech is and then act surprised and annoyed when the government shows up looking to regulate it.

It's entirely possible that models could be "dangerous" to fully release to the general public without guardrails and at the same time the government majorly overreacted in this case.

Releasing Mythos to selected researchers and companies at least gives those researchers a head start at addressing vulnerabilities before the model hits mainstream.

Also a good wake-up call for investors as these big players can be benched at any moment.

I suspect they're taking this as a win either way, because they're still plastering "Fable 5 unavailable" on their product and using it as an opportunity to keep themselves in the spotlight as they head to IPO.

There's really not even a ban here, they could slot in Fable under the Opus label and no one would really be able to tell. It's all part of the same show to pump up valuation.

I’m way more concerned about the loons willing to throw absurd amounts of money at the clearly naive individuals.

No. They got caught in a change in what it means to be "regulated".

Regulation in a functional democracy: Cool, lets figure this out, write up a bill for us, do some research in congress, lets find something that makes sense.

Regulation in a function fascism: Cool, wheres my bribe? My boots not shiny, lick it till I say stop.

See, Anthropic wasn't licking enough boot when Biden got discharged and they thought Amazon and OpenAI and Elon were just going to let them capture a market without fealty to the boot.

This is 99% petty drama between the US government and Anthropic and 1% actual safety concerns.

I love it, maybe now they’ll all shut the fuck up now that Anthropic has fucked around a couple times and is now finding out.

Let's hope that government seizes all of these AI companies with total forfeiture and no compensation.

Everyone has a price.

the coming IPOs will possibly create several billionaires. Standing on the top of a billion dollar pile would definitely change your perspective.

And Anthropic say they were on the phone within 15 minutes… This administration is not known for its honesty so it’s hard to take their side of things

It's because the "crisis" is a sham for publicity, like Trump's constant bullshit deals and ceasefires that aren't real, they're just happening to find more problems to keep them in the news.

I feel Dario did enough harm. I wonder if he can do the right thing and step down. It’s really just tiresome to follow all his PR/Hype/warnings and this fiasco makes everything he says seem so silly. At the same time he’s dangerous for the industry. In the end he may get more regulation than he asked for. If the gov decides the Opus models are too powerful without KYC they are toast. And to be honest I think they deserve it.

I feel like I woke up from a coma and all the sudden people are taking the administration at their word. I'm so confused.

Had to disagree with that. However, I don't think you can discount how much Anthropic has been banging the drum about how AI is dangerous (specifically theirs) and an existential threat, etc. etc.

The rollout of Mythos was clearly manufactured to stoke the fears of companies that didn’t have access to it. They also bragged (for Fable) about how they "ran an external bug bounty that produced no universal jailbreaks in over 1,000 hours of testing" only for it be circumvented almost immediately.

So them standing on the high horse and saying it is _so powerful, yet so safe_ only to have that blow up in their face just made it that much easier to make an excuse to do this. Again, not disagreeing, but they made themselves the tall poppy here.

Are people here deluded?

Business 101 - never take on an entity who has ultimate power over you and can conduct a course of action to put your existence at threat

They are absolutely clueless about how to talk to this administration.

"Carlini had never before found a bug in Linux, or in Ghost. Now he had discovered many."

New guy learns nessus, now tells everyone at the bar he's basically Mr. Robot.

A pox on the labs and the government. InfosecDrama.exe just took out a frontier model because a noob learned how to use a tool.

They needed to have administration insiders on their team months if not years ago, not just now

OpenAI, Meta, SpaceX are savvy enough to play ball, but Anthropic's public posturing and government affairs has always seemed too aloof and intellectual

They should have taken money from Thrive Capital.

OpenAI is also guilty of excessive fear mongering (remember GPT 2 is too dangerous to release?)

This isn't 100% Anthropic's fault, although I'm sure that's part of it. This is the current corrupt administration executing on a grudge they have against Anthropic, and the government's new found love of picking winners and losers.

Nah, that's ridiculous. This admin is corrupt and idiotic and it's silly to pretend that Anthropic's actions matter except in so much as they didn't bribe the president like OpenAI did.

Isn’t that how Anthropic started? Raise alarm bells and ride the hype train.

I’m sure it wasn’t the intent but the halo really makes him look like a saint