Curl will not accept vulnerability reports during July 2026

387 pointsposted 4 hours ago
by secret-noun

141 Comments

vessenes

2 hours ago

The headline buried the lede -- this is a way to get some summer vacation (niiice) AND encourage enterprise support contracts, which will still have availability. I don't think I've heard of this particular open source / support / summer vacation business model before but I like it!

throwaw12

an hour ago

I liked the idea as well, maybe OSS should adopt 6 months availability and 6 months for enterprise support schedule. This way both could benefit, OSS gets more funding, enterprise gets support (cheaper than hiring full-time employee for specific OSS)

charcircuit

25 minutes ago

Until someone races to the bottom to do 12 months of availability.

t-writescode

16 minutes ago

Races to the bottom to … do work exclusively for free and not make any money out of the hopes that they become the most popular OSS toolkit, with an end goal of … what?

plantain

2 hours ago

It's an extremely un-European approach. European companies normally ignore their paid customers too from May to August.

zarzavat

3 hours ago

> > The bad guys won’t rest

> Probably not. But we will.

A pleasant dose of humanity in decidedly inhuman times.

Timshel

3 hours ago

Especially since it appears there is a solution if you truly need a fix.

> Or you get a support contract and we get to read about it earlier.

bawolff

2 hours ago

> Especially since it appears there is a solution if you truly need a fix.

If you ever really need anything fixed in the open source world, there is always the option of doing it yourself

cat_plus_plus

2 hours ago

In 2026 there is a considerably cheaper/quicker solution, but that in no way invalidates OSS maintainers' right to enjoy a summer vacation without interruption.

donw

3 hours ago

That was just a beautiful, period.

Natsu

3 hours ago

I worry that this will make the bad guys focus on finding zero days during the month they have free to exploit anything they find, but I don't doubt that they need a break.

prmoustache

an hour ago

The bad guys wouldn't have submitted a vuln report anyway.

victorbjorklund

an hour ago

Pretty sure if you find a zero day in a software like that you don’t wait until a certain month.

bvcp

2 hours ago

if a company has a problem with this pay for support if its not worth the money …

shevy-java

43 minutes ago

Is this likely though? If you are an AI slop model that spams out finding bugs and vulnerabilities, would you want to become more active when you see that a project is not actively fixing bugs? Because in my opinion, it really would not matter for any AI model how active a project is, when it comes to FINDING existing loopholes.

In other words, I would always go at full speed (as an evil AI slop model) and most likely never release any findings of flaws and loopholes, so they can be exploited lateron. Bad folks don't want to be caught; remember the xz utils backdoor.

I am sure some AI slop models are used by criminals. And they may exploit things at a later time, but they most likely have found issues already. Not every AI slop model would report.

The notion of "the bad guys will now be more active" is strange really in the AI slop age. (We had the stone age; now we have the slop age)

patates

3 hours ago

For the people here who want to do the same when they are vacation (be completely detached from work): Make it impossible for you to work! Leave your work devices behind! Log out of all accounts, remove 2FA keys after backing them up on paper and tell your partner to not give them back to you for the duration of your vacation, etc. I actually went to a country from which I wasn't allowed to work remotely. Crazy but it was that bad for me.

Signed: Former workaholic.

nicbou

2 hours ago

One of the reasons I left North America for Europe is that such things are normalised. The cultural difference is staggering.

In Germany, if you are on vacation, you are simply not available. You are dead to the world until you return. Emails do not get read, and devices get left at the office.

Another neat thing is that if you get sick on vacation, you get your vacation days back, because vacation days are for resting and recovering.

blauditore

32 minutes ago

> if you are on vacation, you are simply not available. You are dead to the world until you return. Emails do not get read, and devices get left at the office.

It's funny because that's kind of the definition of a vacation in my book. I find it weird that some places in the world handle it differently.

Note that it's also much better for the company in the long run: It's a test of resilience and redundany, the famous bus factor. It simulates what happens if someone is not available, and forces the organization around to have a backup plan. Having those is important for cases where employees leave the company or team (switching jobs/teams, accidents, sickness, parental leave, death, burnout, layoffs etc.). It's mind-boggling how many leads at various levels just don't understand that.

BadBadJellyBean

10 minutes ago

Not to forget that you get a minimum of four weeks of vacation per year with 30 days being offered most of the time.

This year I used my vacation time well and I already had 3 weeks off while I still have almost 4 weeks left.

fender256

2 hours ago

Thanks for the reminder that this shouldn't be taken for granted. I am a German and sometimes this privilege feels so normal that it's unthinkable that it could be different elsewhere in the world.

nicbou

an hour ago

I help immigrants integrate for a living. Germany can be a frustrating country, but this is one of its best redeeming qualities.

I'd also add that the culture allows and encourages sick days. The average is 15 sick days per year IIRC.

patates

an hour ago

Totally off-topic, but I read your profile to learn about this: https://allaboutberlin.com - you do awesome work, thank you!

Now I wonder if I could help the immigrants in my area (I'm in Hesse/Hessen), thanks for the inspiration too.

teruakohatu

38 minutes ago

The average number of sick days used is 15 or the number of days offered?

In New Zealand we get a minimum of 10 sick working days per year but some companies offer more and allow unused sick leave to accumulate.

Genmutant

23 minutes ago

You don't have an offered number of sick days in Germany. If you're sick, your sick. At some points (after 6 weeks) the employer stops paying for it, and the payment switches to the health insurance and drops down to 70% of your usual gross salary (with some more specifics).

sensanaty

6 minutes ago

Even the concept that you need permission from your employer to take a sick day is crazy to me. After all, if you're sick, you're sick, not like a hard deadline of 15 days (or whatever) is going to make the sickness go away?

tumdum_

29 minutes ago

Sick days are not “offered” by employers. Sick days are prescribed by the doctors and there is no upper limit. After all you sickness will not disappear just because it has been N days.

Autious

17 minutes ago

Sweden has 14 sick days no questions asked before you need a doctors note. The German way of having to call your doctor for a flu note is a little odd to me. You do loose the first day's pay (the meme is that too many people were off sick when there was a world cup finals or something), and then 80% pay.

naturalmovement

an hour ago

It can honestly be annoying, if you're not privvy to it.

I remember years ago needing urgent support for some bespoke European hardware we were developing software for. When we called support, we were greeted with a phone message stating the company was closed for the entire month due to vacation. This was not a one-man operation; the whole office closed for a summer holiday. We thought it was a joke.

Needless to say we started to look for a new vendor shortly thereafter...

my-next-account

an hour ago

I'm surprised, typically we don't all take vacation at the same time, but stagger it.

prmoustache

42 minutes ago

It really depends on the areas. On white collar jobs yes. It is more frequent in blue collars workers because it is easier to close completely or partially (several lines) in a factory than having to manage different vacations schedules. Constructions companies also do stop because you usually need most workers available + hot weather makes it harder anyway. Small/familiar companies also do it frequently because it doesn't make sense to work if you have dependencies on a number or unavailable persons.

calessian

an hour ago

It's not entirely uncommon, even companies like Volkswagen have 3 weeks of summer vacation. Strictly speaking, some people still work there for maintenance, etc. that can't be done while making cars, but the majority is on vacation.

I know a handful of companies with a week of mandatory Christmas vacation as well (but there's typically not too many working days between Christmas and New Years' either way).

teruakohatu

an hour ago

My advice is don’t ever buy anything that might need support from New Zealand between 24 Dec and 5 Jan. The entire country is just about closed (other than non-niche consumer stores).

Many companies force staff to take vacation days during this time, and there are four (yes four!) public holidays during this period.

breakingcups

an hour ago

I mean, that's not usual at all in Europe either.

dspillett

an hour ago

My company have accidentally forced this on me, and it is great.

I used to have a desktop that I could VPN+RDC into from my personal laptop or desktop to work away from the office¹. I've now got a laptop, that refuses to let me authenticate remotely and they have no interest in fixing that as there are other priorities, so I simply can't work if I don't have that laptop with me and I'm not carting it around when I'm already carting my own around (and if I'm not carrying my own, it is because it isn't a suitable situation to be bringing any laptop).

Not a workaholic, I don't think, but a 24/7 stress monkey when I think that I could be helping. Simply not being able to work away from the office actually helps with that: if there is literally nothing I can do, especially given it is work that has made that impossible, I don't stress the same way.

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[1] other than the VPN connector and the MFA doo-hicky on an old² phone, nothing work related, even Teams, even email, ever touches my personal devices

[2] a small old thing, factory reset with a dummy google account and just the MFA apps installed

thih9

29 minutes ago

I now want to seek an on site role and request a desktop computer.

pjmlp

an hour ago

Easy, that has always been my whole European life, want to reach me on vacations, pay for it.

donw

3 hours ago

As a manager, I will quite literally ding people for working when they are supposed to be off.

Work during work time, don't work during not-work time. Good practices mean that everyone is important, but nobody is irreplaceable, the team and the work will move along a little slower, but that's fine.

gertrunde

3 hours ago

Quote from my partner's manager before a vacation:

"If I see you log on, I'll disable your account."

sensanaty

a few seconds ago

I had a colleague at my previous company where we had to log her out of everything and ask IT to keep her logged out until their vacation was done every single time. Her water broke during her pregnancy leave and she still replied to someone asking her a question in Slack near real-time, after which we made her uninstall Slack from her phone altogether lol

Some people are just workaholics and need interventions to actually take a proper holiday.

nottorp

2 hours ago

Humm he means figure out everything you’re signed in to before going on vacation and log off?

Personally I’m sure I’d forget to sign out of something.

orphea

an hour ago

No, they don't mean "you should log off everywhere" literally; rather, "don't open Teams/Slack/${our_corporate_chat_software}".

OoooooooO

an hour ago

Probably more Teams autostart and suddenly you appear in the online list when you are officially on vacation.

orphea

an hour ago

You're a good person.

My manager doesn't stop overworking. When told on peer performance review that we have people who are consistently overwork because they are swamped, he played it down.

But hey, at least he doesn't encourage overworking either.

sevenzero

2 hours ago

Being the only dev in a startup since 2 years without a single day off where I wasn't messaged by my employer I want this. At least I'll have a 3 week out of country trip where I do not bring my laptop later this year...

vkazanov

2 hours ago

You should really consider another place to work at, unless you own a massive, measurable chunk of the company in a legally binding way.

The only people who should suffer this much are the true busines owners.

GoblinSlayer

39 minutes ago

That's exploitation, no? You're just scammed into it, because you let it slide.

donw

2 hours ago

Honestly, that is just bad management. It can make sense if it's your company, but even then, the risk profile is just off the charts. What happens if your only developer leaves or gets sick?

Real engineers think about handling things when stuff goes wrong, not "everything will be on the happy path forever".

Yes, there are constraints, but to me this sounds like an unacceptable level of exposure.

throw93033

3 hours ago

> Log out of all accounts, remove 2FA keys after backing them up on paper

Seems like a lot of extra work, just to go on vacation :)

I would suggest another approach. Automate your work, that you can work from your phone. I go on multi day hiking trips, or a week long family beach holidays, without taking PTO...

Edit: I do not get negative reactions. Big part of my work is to monitor system, and answer questions. I spend less time on my phone than most social app users! I still do heavy coding in office a few times a month. And I am self employed for nit pickers.

Work does not have to be sufering, you can enjoy it!

utopiah

2 hours ago

>> Log out of all accounts, remove 2FA keys after backing them up on paper [...]

>> Signed: Former workaholic.

> Seems like a lot of extra work, just to go on vacation :)

That's the point, this person and plenty others, are NOT able to "just" go and disconnect. If you can do that, wonderful for you, but please don't assume others are like you precisely when they are humble enough to clarify that they do have a problem and try to help others to overcome it.

prmoustache

39 minutes ago

Just not bringing the devices should be enough.

kelnos

2 hours ago

Regarding your edit, you might be ok with going on a multi-day hiking trip or family holiday while still doing some amount of work from your phone, but many of us think that's a bad idea.

Truly disconnecting from our work is necessary for our mental health. When I'm on vacation, I want to be on vacation, which means not working.

Again, maybe you don't want to actually fully be on vacation from work. I guess that's fine; you do you. But I don't think that's healthy for most people, and regardless of health, many people do just want to completely disconnect from work for some number of days.

Dylan16807

2 hours ago

You're basically saying to get a different job.

That's going to work in some situations, but it's not broadly applicable for many reasons. In particular it's way more work than the act of backing up 2FA and logging out of everything. So yeah, it makes a lot of sense for people to think that's not good advice.

ro_sharp

3 hours ago

This is the ideal, but in practice you need to own the business to live this way..

sayamqazi

3 hours ago

Also candy is enjoyable but 24/7 sucking on it is not.

missingdays

2 hours ago

Living your life = sucking on candy?

throw93033

2 hours ago

Imagine some people sleep at work... I get paid for being available, not LARPing at desk!

Much better than 2 hour daily unpaid commute at old job.

laszlojamf

3 hours ago

as much as I feel for the maintainers here, this sort of (again) puts the spotlight on our collective dependence on a handful of individuals basically working for free _with no backup_. Most normal organizations stagger vacations to avoid these things. Most normal organizations _have_ to do this, because their customers require it. Here, we're all customers of curl, but not really. It's a weird, IMO unhealthy, twilight zone that isn't good for anybody. And it surprises - and saddens - me that not even friggin curl has the financial muscles to have somebody on-call for one month...

necovek

3 hours ago

You'd be surprised to learn this about free and open source software, but if a maintainer is unavailable, you have both full rights and full source code to... wait for it... fix it yourself (or pay someone to)!

There is something unhealthy in this relationship only if you project "no warranty" into unrealistic expectations.

ValdikSS

3 hours ago

This is true for the majority of open-source projects, but the most serious ones, on which a lot of software/businesses/infrastructure depends, are controlled by foundations or some kind of other management entity.

cURL also offers paid support and also paid access to the rock-solid (LTS) version, with guaranteed response times, and the blog post states that there's still people to respond to these.

IshKebab

2 hours ago

You don't really though. Sure you can fork it and fix your issue, but then what? Are you going to maintain your fork in perpetuity? Are you going to patch all the software that depends on the code you fixed to use your version instead of upstream? Are you going to get your users to do that too?

In most cases this is extremely impractical.

spiffyk

2 hours ago

> but then what?

Then you send the patch upstream, they incorporate and maintain it for you. Congratulations, you just FOSSed.

ed_elliott_asc

3 hours ago

They do, he said at the end if you have a support contract then they will respond and deal with security issues.

I guess the whole point of the article is to show that people should buy a support contract if they need support.

Nnnes

3 hours ago

They do.

> Everyone with a paid support contracts will of course still get full and appropriate service even during this period.

4ndrewl

3 hours ago

It does. The article clearly says that if you have a paid support contract they will be on-call as per usual.

simjnd

an hour ago

And I'm assuming you're not going to pay for them to have that someone on-call, even though you're worried about this scenario

bawolff

2 hours ago

> And it surprises - and saddens - me that not even friggin curl has the financial muscles to have somebody on-call for one month...

Is it that they can't or don't want to. I'm sure curl is popular enough that it could attract a co-maintainer if it wanted to. Of course there is a cost to that. Software projects done effectively by a single person are often more focused and designed more coherently. I'm not sure curl would be as good a product if there were multiple maintainers with potentially conflicting visions.

simooooo

2 hours ago

I wonder how far we are from the agents just maintaining the packages

eviks

an hour ago

Consumers, not customers

andylynch

2 hours ago

They do. You just seem to expect that it will somehow be free.

Imustaskforhelp

3 hours ago

The thing which bugs me is that OpenAI (which is an unprofitable company) is spending around what 100k$ per month for an completely AI generated slop called Openclaw. (All because of Hype)

I have seen there to be an more influx of open source software as people are starting to create more software with vibe-coding and other things and just open-sourcing it, which while good in OSS'ing it but its mostly less valuable as compared to the curl codebase which was created by hand and over the years improved itself.

Yet the funding is going towards making more and more (OSS/non-OSS) AI slop by people, companies and dare I say countries yet we are unable to take the same wealth and money into, say, the curl project (and the likes)

There is also an visibility issue. We all know curl and this is the state of curl. Imagine all the projects which we all don't know that much about or aware about going through same issues.

l23k4

2 hours ago

>The thing which bugs me is that OpenAI (which is an unprofitable company) is spending around what 100k$ per month for an completely AI generated slop called Openclaw. (All because of Hype)

For whatever reason, real people seem to desperately want Openclaw regardless of it being AI generated slop.

OpenAI is certainly not wasting the money they're spending on Openclaw, even if I personally wouldn't want to touch that particular piece of software.

Imustaskforhelp

an hour ago

> For whatever reason, real people seem to desperately want Openclaw regardless of it being AI generated slop.

I can agree with it but I am unsure how much the desperation is out of FOMO or out of real use-cases.

Surely curl has more use-cases and projects relying on it than OpenClaw.

The demand seems to be generated out of hype rather than sustainability. Openclaw project isn't even an year old and from my time hearing about it, it isn't safe or sustainable in any fashion and it seems that the hype around Openclaw has now started to slow down as I hear less about it (which to me is actually a good thing imo) but it shows what the market reality of these tools currently are (at the moment).

l23k4

31 minutes ago

>I can agree with it but I am unsure how much the desperation is out of FOMO or out of real use-cases.

I frequently run into people using it, they seem happy with it. I remain highly skeptical about this being a good idea, but I'm quite convinced that many people genuinely really like it and find it useful.

Imustaskforhelp

4 minutes ago

> I frequently run into people using it, they seem happy with it. I remain highly skeptical about this being a good idea, but I'm quite convinced that many people genuinely really like it and find it useful.

That can be the case and good for them, at the very least its open source software that they are using and it raises more awareness about them.

But I think that we have strayed a bit afar from my main premise that I think we both agree on that although the value of an project is always subjective and its up to the companies on how they direct the funds to. It's Okay for OpenAI to sponsor Openclaw if they absolutely want to.

But the question is if its entirely reasonable as to a project like Curl getting less funding overall, simply because everyone is using curl underneath but the tech is boring (as I think it should be), but this makes everyone think that curl is well-funded when it isn't.

I think that its a reasonable decision for a company to give a very small chunk if it has massive profits to curl to sponsor the project to be more sustainable, but I am not the one at the decision-making involved in that said company, so I don't know what is the rationale behind blocking or not sponsoring Curl.

Is the rationale that they can get away with not sponsoring curl in the first place and use it with its permissive licenses in its code so why invest/donate the money in first place, but this practise doesn't seem sustainable to me!?

tempay

3 hours ago

For anyone who thinks this might matter for security:

* curl is mature enough that the chance of an impactful bug is basically zero * if there is such a bug, I'm sure someone will figure out how to get in touch with Daniel and co * if there is such a bug, it's more important that it gets patched in package managers and rolled out. Upstream releases can wait.

veltas

2 hours ago

> if there is such a bug, I'm sure someone will figure out how to get in touch with Daniel and co

No, that is the point, they are not going to accept your vuln report. They are taking a holiday.

Sharlin

2 hours ago

Except if you pay them for a support contract. So there is a way, and it's actually a pretty obvious way.

squigz

an hour ago

There's a pretty big difference between a random report submitted via email, and, say, a close friend of the maintainers letting them know a serious vuln was found and they should login.

BadBadJellyBean

7 minutes ago

Not if it's a real holiday. If it was me then there would be no way I'd log in. Maybe this will increase the sales of support contracts.

flaburgan

3 hours ago

I can only applause this decision. Maintainers of FOSS project are constantly overwhelmed with close to 0 reward and with LLMs now the management of merge requests exploded even further. The fact that they actually keep providing support to paying users is enough.

eviks

an hour ago

> Contracts excluded

They aren't. If you ignore vulnerability report from an entity without a support contract, the vulnerability doesn't disappear just because the entities with support contracts are not aware of it

rzmmm

37 minutes ago

Curl has a ton of features, I can imagine this means fixing small fraction of the vulns affecting only the supporters.

eviks

33 minutes ago

Why would you imagine they have any clue about the area of effect if they ignore the report?

low_tech_love

3 hours ago

I read one sentence into this and knew directly that the developer must’ve been Swedish!

robin_reala

3 hours ago

For people who aren’t familiar, Sweden takes summer holidays seriously. 25-30 days + public holidays is a normal amount of annual vacation time, and if an employee requests it and has the time available, it’s basically legally required to allow them to take a four-week contiguous summer break.

(See https://www.riksdagen.se/sv/dokument-och-lagar/dokument/sven...)

low_tech_love

3 hours ago

Not only that but the vacation is real. If someone is off then you should not expect them to answer at all (because if you do you’ll get very disappointed).

askonomm

36 minutes ago

I thought it's basically the same in all of EU?

defrost

2 hours ago

Ditto Australia: https://www.fairwork.gov.au/leave/annual-leave

  Full-time and part-time employees get 4 weeks of annual leave, based on their ordinary hours of work.

RustyRussell

2 hours ago

Yeah, but there's little culture of actually taking that time.

defrost

20 minutes ago

I guess our experiences vary - our family had month long adventure vacations most years since the 1970s, and growing up we did a half year tour about the whole country when dad got cumulative long service year.

gib444

an hour ago

Sweden is fairly unique in allowing the employee to a 4 week break. Is Australia the same?

2 weeks is the acceptable limit in the UK for example (where also has 20-35 holiday is common) though if you can convince your boss otherwise, you can take longer, but most people can't

mcbridematt

4 minutes ago

Some employers "force" their employees to use a portion of their annual leave during the Christmas / New Year shutdown period (usually 24 December -> first full week after New Years Day, if not longer). So you might not be able to use the full 4 weeks continuously.

This can be an unwelcome feature for some people, for example, if you want to have a vacation in the northern hemisphere summer season instead and/or maybe you don't have substantial family in Australia (or at least, those you actually want to see).

The auscorp reddit has a yearly thread on this issue: https://www.reddit.com/r/auscorp/comments/1mw6pqt/end_of_yea...

Those with school aged children might also want to save some of their annual for the mid-term/mid-year breaks as well. (Our academic years are aligned to calendar years)

defrost

16 minutes ago

Likely varies by industry - a peer Australian (probably in private IT ?) stated it's uncommon to take a break, whereas I'd say in mining, oil, gas, civil service, police and a good number of structured contract employment its more common.

I've "retired" into agriculture and a lot of farmers take a month off after harvest time to go fishing or other wise relax (this generally means filling up a couple of deep chest freezers with fish for the rest of the year).

stavros

3 hours ago

I work for a UK company and most people take basically all of August off (I end up with two months of vacation days a year so I take August off and sprinkle some leave around the year) and I can confirm that taking a month off is great. You forget what it's like to work, really.

jdsnape

3 hours ago

That’s great! It’s very much not the norm here in general tho, in my experience two weeks would be the max people would take off contiguously.

gib444

44 minutes ago

Wow literally never heard of people taking 4 weeks off in the UK. Is this a new thing to deal with child care in the summer holidays?

Is this at the executive level?

nsbk

2 hours ago

Hahaha yeah same here! My $dayjob has offices in Sweden and their summer breaks are legendary. We also have offices in the US, and the culture shock with the Americans never gets old

pdnagilum

2 hours ago

Yup, same thought in Norwegian. Norway basically shuts down during July.

ubanholzer

3 hours ago

This is great. Good decision.

a13n

3 hours ago

what a fantastic advertisement

okeuro49

2 hours ago

> Everyone with a paid support contracts will of course still get full and appropriate service even during this period.

NietTim

3 hours ago

Properly euromaxxing, this is the way.

fnoef

2 hours ago

Based! Amazing approach, enjoy the vacation!

vortegne

3 hours ago

Wish them nothing but good rest!

intronic

3 hours ago

down-under says: enjoy your summer :)

davidgerard

33 minutes ago

I heartily endorse the Fuck You Pay Me support process.

cat_plus_plus

2 hours ago

SGTM, if I am worried about a curl exploit, I will type details into Zoo Code prompt and it will disappear in about 30 seconds and then I can upload a PR for others concerned. Enjoy your vacation and I will enjoy security for a lot cheaper than an enterprise contract!

shevy-java

an hour ago

So it is holiday season.

I thought this was due to AI slop spam before I read the blog entry.

maxbond

3 hours ago

Atlas shrugged, but only for a month. I kid, it's well deserved. I do worry about their contract work loophole - if people disclose vulnerabilities publicly, their clients may pressure them to ship a fix anyway.

Cider9986

2 hours ago

Why was this dead?

fc417fc802

an hour ago

I've been noticing an unusual number of spuriously dead comments from accounts in good standing for a while now. My suspicion is false positives due to holding back the AI wave yet some of the casualties really don't seem to make any sense.

maxbond

an hour ago

To be honest I don't think my account is in 100% good standing, but I can't say for certain. There's definitely some dead comments on my account that are deserved and I think there are some small limitations that are or have been placed on it (probably fairly). Mostly around flagging and vouching.

cubefox

an hour ago

Yeah, I have seen several people who are completely shadowbanned (all comments dead) without any visible reason. There seems to be no way to report this.

maxbond

an hour ago

Hmm. Interesting. If it was [dead], probably a false positive from a naughty comment filter; if it was [flagged][dead], difficult to say, potentially even an accident, or maybe people didn't like the joke. Given the non-negative karma, I would guess the first. Regardless, I appreciate the vouch.

dist-epoch

3 hours ago

> I have been working full-time on curl since 2019. For me, this typically means doing 50 hour work weeks, as I spend all days on it and then I top them off with a few more hours every late night – all days of the week

I wonder what is there to work on curl 50 hour weeks for 7 years?

ozim

3 hours ago

https://curl.se/libcurl/

Let me Google that for you.

supporting DICT, FILE, FTP, FTPS, GOPHER, GOPHERS, HTTP, HTTPS, IMAP, IMAPS, LDAP, LDAPS, MQTT, MQTTS, POP3, POP3S, RTSP, SCP, SFTP, SMB, SMBS, SMTP, SMTPS, TELNET, TFTP, WS and WSS. libcurl supports SSL certificates, HTTP POST, HTTP PUT, FTP uploading, HTTP form based upload, proxies, HTTP/2, HTTP/3, cookies, user+password authentication (Basic, Digest, NTLM, Negotiate, Kerberos), file transfer resume, http proxy tunneling and more!

libcurl is highly portable, it builds and works identically on numerous platforms, including Solaris, NetBSD, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, Darwin, HPUX, IRIX, AIX, Tru64, Linux, UnixWare, HURD, Windows, Amiga, OS/2, BeOs, macOS, Ultrix, QNX, OpenVMS, RISC OS, Novell NetWare, DOS and more...

kitd

2 hours ago

TIL it supports mqtt. Happy 10000 day to me :)

0x1ceb00da

36 minutes ago

I'm 90% sure that even the monkey's paw curls.

hurtigioll

2 hours ago

Linux started removing support for obsolete protocols and hardware

Maybe there is place for a minicurl which removes BeOS and Novell NetWare...

nubinetwork

2 hours ago

I think the argument was that curl is fairly feature complete (as shown by your list), is there really that many bugs in curl that require immediate attention?

sph

2 hours ago

Increasingly so, yes.

maxbond

3 hours ago

It's massive and complex codebase. From the looks of it, pretty much what you'd expect, lots of chores, work on the test suite, keeping docs up to date, bug fixes. I didn't see any new features on my light skim but I'm sure they land occasionally.

https://github.com/curl/curl/commits?author=bagder

0x1ceb00da

3 hours ago

The entire http, http2, http3, tls, sftp spec for every operating system.

bawolff

2 hours ago

When we are talking about one of the most used pieces of software in the world, there is always things to do.

rustyhancock

3 hours ago

A curious approach, but I like it!

Wonder if this means just publishing vulnerablities without contact with curl team would be responsible (you have no other path to tell vulnerable users)

MatthewWilkes

3 hours ago

I think very few people would consider that to be responsible disclosure. The common practice is to allow 90 days as a minimum.

SweetSoftPillow

2 hours ago

It would certainly be irresponsible.

The responsible thing would have been to simply wait another month, considering you've been warned about the delay.

CamouflagedKiwi

2 hours ago

Given that most of those users will not be capable of patching it directly, no, that seems like it would be irresponsible.

prmoustache

31 minutes ago

Why not? Only a tiny fraction of curl user get it from the upstream website/repo. Most users get curl/libcurl from their OS/application vendor or package manager, all of them having their own maintainers. There is no reason a temporary patch couldn't be produced by them in the meantime.

cmxch

3 hours ago

Just publish early due to a documented lack of cooperation. They don’t have to answer, but you dont have to wait.

Naturally some people find that this offensive since this puts a price to that “bliss”.

Dylan16807

2 hours ago

Taking 1/3 of the standard time budget to get back to you isn't ideal, but it's not "a documented lack of cooperation".

And if you find something halfway through the month then oh no two weeks to reply, that's basically a standard business interaction at that point.

maxbond

an hour ago

Why are you interpreting clear communication of a window of downtime with 2 weeks notice as a "lack of cooperation"? That's what cooperation looks like. It's not explicit but my read was that they're not even taking a vacation - they're just doing the rest of their job, a lot of which is probably going to be shipping fixes for vulnerabilities that are already triaged.

chias

2 hours ago

There are no "rules" for responsible disclosure. We have guidelines that we have broadly accepted, but at the end of the day whether or not you discussed responsibly is in the opinion of your peers.

There's no such thing as "responsible disclosure on a technicality". Don't be a dick, and work in good faith to keep users safe.

DonHopkins

an hour ago

Wrong, but thanks for documenting how uncooperative you are.