Show HN: Trace – Offline Mac meeting transcripts you can flag mid-call

93 pointsposted a day ago
by AG342

35 Comments

blopker

4 hours ago

Nice! I really like how many variations on this idea are coming out. MacWhisper used to be great, but is kinda of a buggy mess now.

I'm making my own, for personal use. I did a survey of many and they all (that I could find) skip the fundamentals.

The major issues that I've run into:

- Crash recovery. Most of these apps are incredibly buggy and crash all the time, taking the recorded audio with them. Macwhisper is incredibly bad at this.

- Disk space. Many of these apps save wav files to disk. After a few hours of meetings, you may end up with gigabytes eaten.

- Microphone bleed. People don't always use headphones, the system mic will pick up the speaker sounds, causing duplicate (approximately) transcriptions.

I've yet to find a solution that handles all these correctly, let alone having high quality transcriptions.

Anyway, most of these apps are built around https://github.com/FluidInference/FluidAudio, if anyone is curious. Their readme has a big list of similar apps as well.

jv22222

4 hours ago

Nice tip on FluidAudio that's the kind of thing I've been looking for. Thanks!

highmastdon

3 hours ago

I’m using MacParakeet these days. If your language is supported, definitely give it a try. It’s much faster and lower footprint

Folcon

an hour ago

> I've yet to find a solution that handles all these correctly, let alone having high quality transcriptions.

Wait really? I honestly would have thought this was a solved problem by now, especially high quality transcriptions bit, just out of curiosity, is the problem that the quality isn't high enough?

robertkarl

2 hours ago

This looks sick. I was going to download it but for $10 I am more willing to attempt asking Claude to implement something like it, than to purchase.

I would be more willing to purchase if it was open source and I could build from source to try it first.

satvikpendem

2 hours ago

It's kinda funny how frontier LLMs change the game when it comes to software. If it becomes so good to make whatever little utility you want, why would I pay 10 dollars when an AI subscription is 20 bucks and I can build way more in a month for that $20? Especially since it's very likely people on show HN have simply used AI anyway, so why would I pay for your prompts?

addozhang

an hour ago

I don't really recommend it. If the software is a one-time purchase, there's no need to rewrite it with an LLM. Rewriting the tokens could cost more than just $10.

anonymouse008

an hour ago

* full price tokens, yes

Not the subsidized subs

plaguuuuuu

22 minutes ago

I'd much rather spend $10 than have to sit at a prompt every day babysitting the thing, after working all day sitting at a prompt babysitting other things

denbyc

4 hours ago

I'd love to have a purchase option not tied to the App Store if possible. I don't use an Apple account with my Mac, but I would love to try Trace.

AG342

19 minutes ago

This is definitely on the to-do list if there’s enough demand for it. The payment/distribution/updates infra required is not insignificant, especially if nobody was that bothered, but by the sounds of it they are so I’ll bump this up the priority list.

addozhang

an hour ago

Agreed, no need to tie it into Apple either.

Myrmornis

an hour ago

I will be happy to spend £10 on this. One feature question though -- does it continue transcribing the meeting even if I've turned my volume down / muted it?

AG342

35 minutes ago

It does indeed. Trace will record your system audio regardless of your speaker volume. You do have the option to mute your own mic temporarily though, via a button on the “pill” or a global keyboard shortcut.

nkmnz

4 hours ago

Which Speech-to-Text is used? Is it possible to configure it? This might be crucial for supporting languages other than English - the model that comes built-in with macOS fails completely for German.

mushufasa

5 hours ago

This looks like a good approach, though I would expect this to be a native macOs feature within 12 months -- this seems totally like it fits into their product roadmap.

watchlight

8 hours ago

Agreed with JohnBiz, the moment flagging is interesting and unusual, and a nice contrast to passive transcription. I only recently learned about MacWhisper (I'm Windows primarily) and was floored to learn how expensive the Pro option is. Nowadays it's not so hard to have some-level of DIY transcription, so crazy that it's priced with a premium.

What's your diarization pipeline? Pyannote?

I'd taken a different approach that used a LLM clean-up pass to summarize and progressively compress the transcript for ultra-long content, but I like the idea of targeted "pay attention here" flags.

frabia

4 hours ago

Super interesting! How accurate is the local model to transcribe audio compared to other cloud services? E.g. Google Meet, Otter, Granola, etc.

watchlight

4 hours ago

A lot of the available models are Whisper or Faster-Whisper derived and shared across multiple apps. The tier names are often funny... "Tiny" "base" "small" "medium" "large" "large-v2" "large-v3" "large-v3-turbo" -en only variants, etc.

In my experience, medium is often the sweet spot for English accuracy vs speed, especially if following-up with a post-processing pass. The large options are all fine, but can severely slow it down. There are some speed checks on my website if you're curious (link not posted because I don't want to hijack another post's app).

addozhang

an hour ago

非常不错的一件产品,也是我一直想要的,但是我更多会议是在公司的 mac 上,但肯定不允许我安装这类软件,虽然我愿意自己付费购买。

nazca

4 hours ago

I've been looking for this exact thing!

overflowy

5 hours ago

Does it support multiple languages?

satvikpendem

4 hours ago

I don't see how this is different to literally the dozens of other offline transcription apps, many open source even unlike this one.

hmokiguess

4 hours ago

can you share them? I'm looking for a decent open source one

jv22222

4 hours ago

vermilingua

3 hours ago

I don’t see any there that are as focused as this one, perhaps except Talat which is considerably more expensive.

jv22222

3 hours ago

Ah. My bad. I didn't review them I was just paying more attention to the op asking for a list of open source ones.

hmokiguess

3 hours ago

I went through the list but most feel subpar to me, and some aren't even open source (just claim they use FluidAudio I guess?)