The Last Surviving Japanese Porsche 912 Police Car

92 pointsposted 2 days ago
by zdw

47 Comments

vanderZwan

3 hours ago

The police of Amsterdam also used to have Porsche police cars

https://www.hagerty.com/media/automotive-history/for-more-th...

Any other police departments that did this or just those two?

riffraff

2 hours ago

In Italy the Carabinieri[0] used to have a Ferrari 250 GTE 2+2 in the '60s. The car is still around[1] and is legally allowed to go around with the original "police colors" even tho it's now owned by a private collector.

There's plenty more modern sport cars these days, in various countries.

[0] one of the 4-5 police forces in Italy

[1] https://www.motori.it/ferrari-250-gte-22-in-vendita-la-stori...

TitaRusell

39 minutes ago

Highway patrol back when the regular police drove Beetles.

wolfi1

2 hours ago

the state of Austria usually buys its police cars from Porsche (the dealer not the carmaker) guess, that doesn't count. but Austria had Porsches (some of them 911) in the 60s

NietTim

42 minutes ago

The police of the Netherlands had them, Amsterdam is only a city in the Netherlands.

maeln

an hour ago

Not as beautiful, but the French Gendarmerie National have 22 Alpine A110. Some pictures there : https://www.largus.fr/actualite-automobile/alpine-a110-genda....

In 4 four years, they managed to total 4 of them (from the 26 brought in 2021).

bionsystem

44 minutes ago

Alpine is (was ?) a Renault brand, which is a French company, so it is a little less exotic than a Japanese police force buying a German car (Japan being such a massive car exporter themselves).

smackeyacky

3 hours ago

Bit of a shame what has happened to classic Porsche prices. They used to be “car guy” cars. Now the prices went wackadoodle they’ve become cars for people who…aren’t car guys and can’t even pronounce it properly.

Interesting history on that one, bit of an odd choice for the Japanese police.

close04

2 hours ago

That's what happens to things when they become status symbols. They're chased for status. Not the case for Porsche but sometimes that object ends up losing all the core value, pushing away the original fans, and rides the status wave until there's nothing left to offer.

testfrequency

2 hours ago

My love for Porsche almost completely stopped as soon as I moved to the Bay Area.

fragmede

30 minutes ago

Why? Because you could afford one? Or because you everyone else could? If your love for them was based on other people not having one, and not for love of the machine, can you really call yourself a fan?

testfrequency

9 minutes ago

Note I said “almost completely”. You also decided to interpret my response as I only cared about scarcity..which is a choice.

To answer: There’s only so many times you want to strike up a friendly conversation with a driver about their lovely car, only to be met with them having no clue about their bespoke vehicle, or even worse - the pitted feeling that they are somehow superior.

Porsche drivers in most of places I’ve lived do not behave this way. You will have a better time and luck in the Bay Area chatting cars with someone who drives a Ferrari or McLaren (or a Mazda to make it clear it’s not simply value) than a Porsche owner.

As a petrol head, I’m saying it’s sad that most tech bros buy these over the top track cars and don’t know much about them besides the paint color or alcantara.

tonyedgecombe

2 hours ago

>Not the case for Porsche

I'd argue it is, at least once they started making more SUV's than 911's.

pjc50

an hour ago

The Porsche SUVs deeply offend me aesthetically. The proportions are just wrong and the curve doesn't adapt across the body, so it looks like a monster truck. Far more so than things built to be that size (Land Rover and imitators).

teruakohatu

33 minutes ago

Wait till you see Lambo’s SUV!

pjc50

21 minutes ago

The Urus? It's .. actually not too bad. It's "not a Lamborghini", in that it looks completely different from the classic low wedge shape, but once you accept that there's no way to do "low wedge, but higher" and look at it on its own it looks alright. It's quite an aggressive look, "angry car face", but that feels appropriate for Lambo.

smackeyacky

an hour ago

It didn’t have to be that way but badge engineering a VW wasn’t a great idea. Then again I know nothing because they sell a ton of those things.

fragmede

33 minutes ago

Then again, the 911 still comes in stick shift. But not as default. They also come in electric. Every petrolhead has a different reason to hate Porsche. And Lamborghini. And Ferrari.

Porsche has one duty to its shareholders. Keep existing. They do that by selling cars.

close04

2 hours ago

Maybe they're not what they used to be but they haven't lost all of the Porsche DNA. It's not all status. There are companies where the label is all that's left.

fragmede

18 minutes ago

Which is to say, there are companies that've gone out of business. But if it was my company, I know what I would do, to put my kids through college. But I know what I would do, to look them in the eye after college.

Just kidding, I don't have kids.

anal_reactor

2 hours ago

> can’t even pronounce it properly

There are things which pronunciation I've learned in childhood and it will never change no matter how good my foreign language skills get. "Tomb Raider" with comically butchered accent.

tkcranny

3 hours ago

I'm no car guy, but that's a beautiful vehicle. How totally Japanese too; zany but rad.

n4r9

2 hours ago

> In the 1960s, four Porsche 912s were customized for use as police cars in Japan

Fascinating. So many follow-on questions. Why four exactly? Were they all in Tokyo, or spread around? Did they get used for anything other than highway patrol? Who got to drive them?

thrdbndndn

an hour ago

The article said Kanagawa so not Tokyo. Well, close enough.

SiempreViernes

2 hours ago

Four seems like a reasonable number for a trial purchase.

varjag

3 hours ago

Really dig that side mounted siren. Peak mid century aesthetics.

kart23

3 hours ago

whats the huge sports chrono looking thing on the dash? wonder if thats the origin of the modern option

pjc50

38 minutes ago

Speedometer. Not sure why it's in a separate binnacle on its own. Perhaps that allows the passenger cop to also observe the speed and corroborate it in court later if necessary.

fsalehpour

3 hours ago

Steering wheel on the wrong side!

GJim

an hour ago

1/3 of the planets population drives on the left mate.

(Incidentally, if a country drives on the left then as a general rule of thumb, they also play cricket. I've no idea why this might be the case.)

ornornor

24 minutes ago

I’d say it’s because cricket is British and driving on the other side is British too?

bdsa

39 minutes ago

British influence?

I'm not sure the correlation holds up in Japan's case though

pjc50

33 minutes ago

British influence again - apparently through the train network. Despite Commodore Perry and the Portuguese, Britain had significant influence during the Meiji restoration.

lifestyleguru

31 minutes ago

Don't want succumb to any conspiracy theory, but they also tend to play rugby.

ishtanbul

3 hours ago

Scrapping them should be a crime

lifestyleguru

3 hours ago

People are doing really ugly, corrupted, and cruel things to own and to drive Porsche. Don't understand sentiment to this brand, especially considering a hole in their history during 1930s-1940s. It's a drving scrap, they didn't scrap it, big deal.

bayindirh

2 hours ago

I'm a car enthusiast, but I like brands like Porsche because of the engineering they have on their cars.

You don't have to appreciate it, but the engineering of these cars are not orthodox, yet they're daily driveable cars unlike the cars in their own class, e.g. Ferrari, Maserati, et. al.

The thinking out of the box, and evolution instead of revolution makes them extraordinary. Personally, I prefer the looks of Porsches to any other car.

However, would I go great lengths to own one? I'm not sure.

You can admire something without going crazy about it or define yourself via it.

If we're going to "shame" companies about doing things between 1930-1940, the list will be much longer and multi-national.

jgilias

2 hours ago

Ever buying a Fanta?

lifestyleguru

2 hours ago

Wrong address, I absolutely avoid this "fantastic" brand and other sugar syrups. I tend to drink plain water (like in the toilet bowl).