I think the key thing is that Spotlight is now creating a... knowledge graph? of everything on your device for Siri's consideration. That's potentially very useful.

what's worrisome is that they continue to fail at it. it's one thing to say "we're still hashing things out". it's another to parade around Image Generation features that are obviously widely not-cared-for and oftentimes actively disliked

Apple cares greatly about their brand yet this has hurt their brand like nothing else in the past decade

Apple has over-promised and under-delivered so many times in this space, going back to the launch of the original Siri.

So while they could win, it’s pretty hard to get hyped about it before we see real-world tests.

One of the presenters said they're working with regulators in China and the EU to make it available eventually.

Wrong. It's some for the EU.

>EU users will be able to access Siri AI on macOS 27, visionOS 27, and watchOS 27.

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/06/due-to-dma-siri-ai-de...

Change your region. I've done so and haven't particulary noticed anything off, all the EU specific apps are weirdly still available in US appstore.

Just updated to see if I could make a shortcut to toggle `Reduced White Point` accessibility shortcut.

"Try describing something different for the shortcut."

I guess I shouldn't be surprised that it still doesn't work.

I doubt the average personal user knows what OpenClaw even is though Google is also producing competitive stuff.

Craig mentioned near the end of the keynote that compute intensive things (like image generation) will have rate limits that can be increased bundled with their iCloud + plans. I imagine any request that gets routed to their cloud compute will be subject to limits as well. He positioned it as a value-add to their existing subscription but I suppose that can change.

This is why OpenAI thinks it needs to build its own physical devices. If Apple is only allowing its own AI to operate at the OS level, then that leaves OpenAI with no choice but to build their own.

Meta also realized this and attempted multiple times to build their own hardware but they've given up each time. They started as early as a partnering with HTC in 2011 to make a Facebook phone.

Quite frankly, I'm kind of excited to see what OpenAI can build. I think an AI-first phone could challenge iOS and Android. It's a new paradigm and if OpenAI gets it right, it'll be very hard for Apple and Google to pivot.

I personally think chat + code is the future of apps. For example, I find myself wanting to do many things inside ChatGPT instead of traditional app because I can tell it to do things that are simply impossible on a static app UI. For example, I have some data I want to send to an app but before I do, I want ChatGPT to clean the data in some way first. And then after the data is uploaded, I want ChatGPT to pull some data off the API and make charts that I want to see.

I imagine a world where very intelligent models run at 10k tokens/s, app building is extremely standardized, and it simply builds any app you want inside the OS. IE, if you want a dashboard of your health data, you ask it to build it almost instantly exactly how you want it. I'm already doing something similar today but it's slow and not easy to do for non-engineers.

Apple Passwords reliably updates passwords in its database before the password is confirmed to be actually changed. I've been locked out of accounts many times to this. They really need to focus on these basic UX issues.

I'll believe this when pigs fly.

There's a 0% chance it will work. Most websites I've seen have one or all of:

* Force you to use email or SMS as a "second factor" to unlock changing password even if you know the old password

* A stupid idea of password complexity usually requiring one of a finite set of 5-8 "special characters" which is often only revealed after you've chosen a password that doesn't have them. Or in some cases even banning characters other than the ones they check for. There's a standard for this where you put a regex on the password field, which a good password manager will always use, but the kind of idiots who think limiting the entropy of passwords to increase security is the correct way to do things almost NEVER implement this.

* A maximum password length, even as short as 16 characters in many cases

* CAPTCHA etc.

Any effort spent on this would be better spent elsewhere, including even educating other companies on how passkeys should be used.

1Password has been able to do this for five+ years. Frankly, it doesn't even really need agentic AI, although a talented team could probably make it perform better with agentic AI.

I don't really believe in Apple being that quality team.

I hope they don't feed the actual password into the model.

I agree, I am kinda disappointed by how much AI there is in this update, I was hoping for something different and exciting.

Went out of their way to show actual usage of these features on actual devices in actual people’s hands

> This will be first time they charge for Siri - a product that doesn’t garner any positive reviews.

It seems like revisionist history to say that; lots of people were sold on iPhones years ago because of Siri. They have one of the few business cases for voice assistants, which are notoriously difficult to actually monetize, that actually makes any sense, since "selling iPhones" is meaningful and "selling a subscription" would be nice on top of that.

If they are using some mid model and are stingy with web search, I won’t use it more than a couple times.

It looks almost entirely like gemini. The images they showed are obviously nano banana, and the text responses are almost obviously Gemini (I say as a somewhat frequent Gemini user).

I'm sure they customized some of it, but this looks basically like Gemini integrated with iCloud instead of Google Workspace.

Is Siri any more or less than “just” an agentic harness such as OpenClaw? How much of what that harness does is up to the LLM or the harness itself?

In my mind the Gemini LLM defines the bounds of capability and capacity, but any actual functionality or usefulness (or lack of) comes from Apple’s Siri harness.

I was wondering the same. I have to imagine it's mostly Gemini, unless Apple has a big, secret, SotA foundation model no one has heard of? But if it is Gemini, how does that work with their Private Cloud thing? Are they able to load the Gemini weights into it?

There was not a single thing they launched that I have not seen Gemini already showcase capability or existing feature wise

Watching the keynote at our office on a big screen and everyone collectively sighing when they announced the name felt indicative haha.

I think it just feels uncreative? Siri as a brand has some value, but if you want it to feel like a watershed moment where old Siri is "behind us" finally, just give it a new name.

Amazing how someone again finds a meaningless thing Apple does better than the rest then blows it out of proportions. Makes you wonder if they are on Apple's PR team.

Apple notably threw shade at the existing AI implementations, with an emphasis on making Siri AI more human-focused.

The stock price definitely didn't like it though.

Edge has had this for a long time. I can highlight a string and right-click, 'Send to Copilot' and click "explain" and it'll prompt it to 'explain this passage, particularly in the context of the current page.'

Note: I have MS 365 personal or whatever it's called this week so I'm not sure how Copilot acts for a completely free user.

Right? I've been waiting a lot of years for an upgrade to my voice-activated timer setter/music player launcher.

Apple has pulled a Tesla here. FSD on HW3 cars is stuck on old software with no upgrade path as of now. Tesla is potentially justifying it by calling it "FSD (Supervised)" so they don't have to do an expensive retrofit to them even though they sold these cars originally with the promise of fully autonomous driving.

All the iPhone 16/Pro owners have been waiting for Apple Intelligence features announced from that WWDC 2 years ago. They didn't get delivered and now won't ever be delivered with on-device intelligence due to the 8GB RAM limitation.

That's specifically the secondary, more-powerful model. It was only mentioned in passing in the keynote, but on this page anyway, it seems to be just the improved dictation in Siri and ability to customize pacing, etc.

The 12gb number is weird, but also telling.

iPhones have 12gb, current Neo has 8gb, the next gen Neo is speculated to have 12gb (as it'll be based on a later iPhone chip).

> It’s really disappointing to see the on-device models being limited to so few devices.

At first I thought it was the usual planned obsolescence. Then I realized it may be a true technical limitation. I suspect an embedding model is required to run on device in order to make several of the features work. Embedding models are small compared to LLMs, but, depending on their capabilities, could be the memory driver.

Yeah, "Fiber: good source" when 100g of raw bean sprouts gives you 1.8g fiber (less than a 2" kiwi), and pho comes with much less than 100g of sprouts.

Pho is a pretty bad source of fiber.

It sucks that we're skipping over such good tools like cronometer.com to figure out what we're actually eating and going straight to hallucination, adding more confusion to nutrition.

This time they really promise it'll ship

But fundamentally, the real difference is they have now bought and white-labeled Gemini to replace all the stuff they failed to make 2 years ago.

Why do I need shortcuts though, I want that to be transparent.

I think Shortcuts has a few massive flaws that would give me pause enshrining it as middleware for an important thing like a "mainstream OpenClaw".

1 is performance. It's slow. You can run one within the app and literally watch execution flow from one block to the next. Absurd, for the CPU power at hand.

2 is reliance on developers to deliberately implement hooks and "intents" when the developers of at least half of apps including most "big company" apps do not care to bother, often because 95% of their app's surface is actually cross-platform stuff.

Example: There are no shortcut actions for Google Calendar, and Gmail only has one real one which is a generic send email. No "search email" etc.

I'd rather see Apple lean into "computer use" to allow it to use any app that displays things on the screen, but IDK how you make that safe.

> all the limitations of on-device with none of the benefits, it seems?

What do you mean?

Yeah missed opportunity. They could have even had a fake funeral for Siri like Jobs did for OS 9, or a "retirement party" or something. Leave the Siri brand behind and launch this as something brand new.

The demo video there is so underwhelming. They show very basic stuff, which I assumed Siri was already capable of doing... not sure what the big improvement is