Insane. 3 points behind opus on the artificialanalysis index.

Mimo cost ~$400 at the old price, so about $40 today. Opus cost ~$5000

That's over 100x cheaper, and just 3 points behind.

I can't wait to experiment with an llm consortium of 100 deepseek and mimo models. Crazy times.

Shut up and take my m̶o̶n̶e̶y̶ data!

Edit: Gemini on google search told me I could write strikethrough text on hn using <s>. Mimo told me it was unsupported and then went on to list some tags that are supported, like <b>bold</b>. I tried copy pasting the word in strikethrough from a word processor but it lost the format. I ended up using mimo in an agent shell wrapper to produce it, and copy pasting from the terminal worked for some reason.

Since the 3rd party providers on openrouter have all converged on much higher prices in serving these models (both mimo and dsv4), there's obviously a question on how/why are they lowering the prices so much.

It's possible they've finally integrated cheap(er) chinese chips. It's also possible they're just subsidising inference for real-world usage data. Interesting either way.

That's deliberate. US AI companies have no chance of recouping even fraction of their valuations.

PS: Have not tried this but Deepseev4 Flash (not even Deepseekv4 Pro version) with set to "high" has pretty much Claud Opus 4.7 level of capabilities and is lightening fast and dirty cheap. Hours and hours of conversation barely costs few cents.

I worked part time with MiMo 2.5-pro over the last month, and barely managed to use 500 Million of the 700 Million tokens I had allocated.

My plan was just upgraded to 38 BILLION tokens per month. That's at least 10X the tokens I've used in my entire agentic development so far.

I should probably downgrade my plan, but we'll see. :)

These and the Deepseek ones that were were cost reduced recently are perfectly capable models for the vast majority of light work and more.

It's funny thinking the US companies are hiking prices and Chinese ones do the opposite, it's obviously an strategy, but pretty funny

interesting/funny: their off-peak rates apply 00:00-08:00 Beijing time, so nine-to-five for someone on the NA west coast :p

How realistic is this:

Chinese models incidentally slurps up some terms that lead them to finding unflattering words that you wrote about the CCP in a random journal entry, or maybe a social media csv export. You go to China one day and are denied entry due to what you said.

Realistic or no? (yes i know the us is getting bad in re. to what you write online as well)

Models hosted in China are a siren call that I don't feel bad about resisting.

Will try MiMo now. I have been mainly using just DeepSeek lately because of the fact that V4-Flash destroys basic work for basically 0 cost. Haven't exceeded even 50% of my OpenCode Go weekly limits using V4 Flash and Pro.

The 99% is with regards to cached inputs. It seems to now at the same price as deepseek v4-pro

"The api pricing for mimo-v2-pro and mimo-v2-omni remain unchanged" could we presume this means the discount isn't from hardware improvement or availability ?

So exactly same as deepseek 4 api pricing

VSCode + Cline + Mimo v2.5 pro works ! great !. Give it a try.

as someone from the 3rd world - this is pleasant - even 3rd world countries will have affordable "A.I" access via Chinese models.

as someone who now lives & has lived in the west for the majority of their adult life - yeah the US western models r fucked n the crazy valuations of the A.I labs - which also filters down to the economy - since all money instead of being put to productive use is being wasted on this shit. hell electricity bills are up - cz datacenters need power. the current crooks in power don't believe in clean energy.

Everyone already said what I wanted to say. That all US companies (OpenAI, Anthropic, Google, MS Copilot) have increased price recently while Chinese companies (Deepseek, Xiaomi) are reducing price.

The question is how they are managing to do so? They are supposed to struggle due to chip sanctions.

Secondly, why now? The US companies were supposed to subsidize too but now they are unable to keep up. Everyone going to usage based pricing, so it's unsustainable for them. They are well funded too.

If there are genuine hardware breakthrough reducing compute needs then that is good for the whole world I believe.

The price cut is 50%.

OK. Google was just killed. How is it possible to reduce the price by 99%??????? This is crazy

Everyone adding "Permanent" to price cuts now

First Deepseek, Now Xiaomi. A price cut of 99%.

This is why Anthropic wants these chinese AI models banned as they are in the lead in the AI race to zero and they know that there is no modal moat.

So don't tell Dario.

Like I said. China doesn't care about money. We want AI in people's hands.