autoexec
6 hours ago
I hope these companies aren't in for a shock when the younger generation rejects their brands https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/920401/g...
If negative perception towards AI grows, either because of negative experiences after having it forced on them, or as people's utility bills skyrocket, or as the environmental impact becomes more apparent, they might find that what appeals to shareholders doesn't impress the people who usually pay for their products.
techblueberry
5 hours ago
I see AI marketing as a negative indicator. Because everyone should be doing AI it’s not a differentiator. It implicitly means you don’t know what value you provide. It’s like advertising you’re cloud powered because you use AWS. Which makes recall a bunch of companies doing. What value do you provide, not what tech do you use.
recursive
5 hours ago
> everyone should be doing AI
I don't understand this at all. I'd consider a no AI message a positive signal. Like what bandcamp is doing.
dodu_
an hour ago
It's funny how many of the startup-pilled HN crowd have completely abandoned the widely accepted principles like "solve a real problem" or "make something people want" in favor of solution-first thinking "how can I shove AI into something" which was always looked down upon.
This industry has lost its collective mind with this hype cycle. I'm not even against the technology, but this is all just shockingly reckless.
disqard
28 minutes ago
I'm not advocating for being this way... but if you're starting a company primarily so you can have an "exit strategy", then it is natural to primarily virtue-signal to Wall St (instead of "solve a real problem")
tl;dr: this AI cargo-culting is ultimately unsurprising to me.
techblueberry
5 hours ago
I spoke indelicately.
CobrastanJorji
6 hours ago
My kid was an excited Duolingo user who immediately cut it off entirely as soon as he heard that they were doing something with AI. That was all it took. He heard "Duolingo's AI now" on some YouTube video, and it was immediately dead to him.
I don't think people understand just how viscerally negative the perception of AI is for the youth.
llbbdd
4 hours ago
Duolingo is a game, they publish papers studying the addictive properties of their product I comparison to slot machines. They are incentivized heavily to not produce fluent learners. If he's being pushed in another direction to learn, for whatever reason, all the better for him.
danaris
3 hours ago
Duolingo used to be a very effective gamified language learning system.
Then they decided they cared more about profits than providing a quality product.
Now they are best known for their dark patterns.
llbbdd
3 hours ago
Yep, I noticed recently that on their official research portal they stopped publishing anything publicly in I think 2021. The last couple of articles before that were along these lines:
https://research.duolingo.com/papers/yancey.kdd20.pdf
I assume all the research after this point is too revealing to publish.
PearlRiver
3 hours ago
Apparently Samsung sells washing machines with AI. Yeah...
dfxm12
4 hours ago
It's been a little over a year, but back when I was using the app, Duolingo advertised their own AI features within the app itself. I wonder if they still do, and if so, why it took watching a YouTube video for it to sink in...