underyx
9 hours ago
> the slow performance decays
the decays are just more capable other models entering the population, making all prior models lose more frequently
TekMol
5 hours ago
No, that is not how ELO scores work.
qnleigh
5 hours ago
As far as I understand, this is exactly how ELO scores work. If a more capable show up and starts beating all the other models, it literally takes ELO points from everyone else.
TekMol
3 hours ago
If a more capable show up and starts
beating all the other models
There is an instance of this in the chart. In 2025-06-24 when Gemini-2.5-pro shows up. As you can see, the ELO of the others do not drop.harperlee
4 hours ago
Depends on the test design; is an agent competing against other agent in a given match, or against a test? Plus! Does the test's ELO fluctuate?
tasuki
4 hours ago
Yes, that is in fact how Elo can work[0]. There are quite many ways Elo systems can work.
whiplash451
5 hours ago
It depends what you use as an anchor. If the anchor is a fixed model, you’re right. If the anchor is updated to a better model over time, then the elo of historical models degrades, right?