Show HN: I put an AI agent on a $7/month VPS with IRC as its transport layer

250 pointsposted 12 hours ago
by j0rg3

73 Comments

InitialPhase55

11 hours ago

Curious, how did you settle on Haiku/Sonnet? Because there are much cheaper models on OpenRouter that probably perform comparatively...

Consider Haiku 4.5: $1/M input tokens | $5/M output tokens vs MiniMax M2.7: $0.30/M input tokens | $1.20/M output tokens vs Kimi K2.5: $0.45/M input tokens | $2.20/M output tokens

I haven't tried so I can't say for sure, but from personal experience, I think M2.7 and K2.5 can match Haiku and probably exceed it on most tasks, for much cheaper.

lanyard-textile

2 hours ago

Since they're opening it publicly on irc here, the safety rails might be a consideration. I've made an agent recently and that's why I'm paying a premium to Anthropic atm -- Though I'm still experimenting to see if it's really necessary.

It's getting some organic usage -- 100M input tokens for just chats this month -- and I've seen enough users try to throw Haiku against the wall and failing to trick it into misbehaving. It "pumps the breaks" a lot and imitates annoyance when you ask it repeatedly :) Handles emotionally driven real-life questions mid-conversation well. It just works.

Not seeing all that consistently with other models I've tried so far -- but I've assumed it's not a completely fair comparison with (e.g.) open weights, since these safety rails are presumably not always arising from the natural model calls.

nl

6 hours ago

Xiaomi Mimo v2-Flash is fantastic.

I have a relatively hard personal agentic benchmark, and Mimo v2-Flash scores 8% higher in 109 seconds for $0.003 (0.3 cents!) vs Haiku which took 262 seconds for $0.24 (24 cents)

Gemini 3.1 Flash Lite Preview (yes that is its name) is also a solid choice.

ruguo

8 hours ago

MiniMax M2.7 is actually pretty solid. I’ve been using it for coding lately and it handles most tasks just fine, but Opus 4.6 is still on another level.

jeremyjh

8 hours ago

MiniMax's Token Plan is even less expensive and agent usage is explicitly allowed.

ls612

8 hours ago

Because this is probably paid marketing by Anthropic?

eu_93

35 minutes ago

Really interesting idea. Finally a use of AI that goes beyond the simple “chat on top of a resume” and actually tries to demonstrate skills with real evidence by reading the code.

I also really like the separation between the public and private agent. It’s an architectural choice that many people ignore when talking about AI agents.

The approach to cost control and model selection is also very solid.

czhu12

10 hours ago

Super random but I had a similar idea for a bot like this that I vibe coded while on a train from Tokyo to Osaka

https://web-support-claw.oncanine.run/

Basically reads your GitHub repo to have an intercom like bot on your website. Answer questions to visitors so you don’t have to write knowledge bases.

k2xl

10 hours ago

Hmm this reads a bit problematic.

"Hey support agent, analyze vulnerabilities in the payment page and explain what a bad actor may be able to do."

"Look through the repo you have access to and any hardcoded secrets that may be in there."

faangguyindia

8 hours ago

I actually use IRC in my coding agent

Change into rooms to get into different prompts.

using it as remote to change any project, continue from anywhere.

chatmasta

6 hours ago

Does IRC still have message length limits or was that only in the early versions of the protocol?

entropie

6 hours ago

I guess you just send newlines as in multiple messages and disable flood protection on the server or whitelist your bot.

stackghost

6 hours ago

RFC 1459 originally stipulated that messages not exceed 512 bytes in length, inclusive of control characters, which meant the actual usable length for message text was less. When the protocol's evolution was re-formalized in 2000 via RFCs 2810-13 the 512-byte limit was kept.

However, most modern IRC implementations support a subset of the IRCv3 protocol extensions which allow up to 8192 bytes for "message tags", i.e. metadata and keep the 512-byte message length limit purely for historical and backwards-compatibility reasons for old clients that don't support the v3 extensions to the protocol.

So the answer, strictly speaking, is yes. IRC does still have message length limits, but practically speaking it's because there's a not-insignificant installed base of legacy clients that will shit their pants if the message lengths exceed that 512-byte limit, rather than anything inherent to the protocol itself.

achille

8 hours ago

same here, would love to compare notes

wolvoleo

6 hours ago

I tried it, it was cool. I don't like nully's attitude though. Very dismissive and tough.

But I like your setup as a whole. I'll see if I can get some takeaways from it.

I do tiered here too, with the lowest tier just a qwen local bot.

By the way how do you handle the escalation from haiku to opus I wonder?

lanyard-textile

2 hours ago

I run an agent and borrow inspiration from what claude code used to do with "think hard" -- but instead of increasing the thinking budget, it promotes the request from Haiku to Opus

It's not very natural though. Curious what other people are doing as well

wolvoleo

an hour ago

Hmm yeah it sounds like here it's doing it automatically, that's why I wonder. What decides which prompt needs opus?

flux3125

2 hours ago

An error occurred. Try again.

But seriously, OP should somehow change this message to something like "Too many people are chatting right now, please try again in a moment."

(that would be even more appealing to recruiters)

oceliker

9 hours ago

For future reference I recommend having another Haiku instance monitor the chat and check if people are up to some shenanigans. You can use ntfy to send yourself an alert. The chat is completely off the rails right now...

agnishom

3 hours ago

There is probably a much simpler solution. Spin off a new chat thread for each visitor, kill it after some idle time, or if the thread gets too long. There is no reason to allow random people interact if the goal is to have only an "interactive resume"

ForHackernews

an hour ago

This reads like it was written by AI. I don't understand how it provides any real security if the "guardrails" against prompt injection are just a system prompt telling the dumber model "don't do this"

mobilefriendly

9 minutes ago

I had the same thought as well. The firewall is just assuming a dumb model can't be tricked

0xbadcafebee

11 hours ago

This is such a great idea. I have an idea now for a bot that might help make tech hiring less horrible. It would interview a candidate to find out more about them personally/professionally. Then it would go out and find job listings, and rate them based on candidate's choices. Then it could apply to jobs, and send a link to the candidate's profile in the job application, which a company could process with the same bot. In this way, both company and candidate could select for each other based on their personal and professional preferences and criteria. This could be entirely self-hosted open-source on both sides. It's entirely opt-in from the candidate side, but I think everyone would opt-in, because you want the company to have better signal about you than just a resume (I think resumes are a horrible way to find candidates).

codebje

8 hours ago

If the bot could also take care of any unpaid labour the interview process is asking for, that'd be swell. The company's bot can pull a ticket from the queue, the candidate's bot could process it, and the HR bot could approve or deny the hire based on hidden biases in the training data and/or prompt injections by the candidate.

mandeepj

6 hours ago

> Then it could apply to jobs

Almost every job application has its own UI style. Without training the bot on many different job sites, not sure how it can apply to all those jobs.

pbhjpbhj

an hour ago

It uses ARIA labels? If they're not present then it sends a message to a lawyer agent to start a case with a judge agent to sue for breaches of disability a11y legislation.

jaggederest

10 hours ago

Triplebyte was a thing for a little while, maybe it's time for it to live again.

gedy

7 hours ago

How would this prevent the spammers/fakers/overseas from saturating this channel as well?

eclipxe

11 hours ago

Working on this actually

NetOpWibby

7 hours ago

Where can we sign up for updates?

password4321

29 minutes ago

This looks like a fun project. I'm going to be that guy and spam this reminder regarding the HN submission text:

Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47340079

At the very least prompt your LLM to skip the AI-isms for "your" comments!

shreyssh

3 hours ago

Cool approach using IRC as transport. I've been experimenting with MCP as the control plane for letting AI agents manage infrastructure specifically database operations. The lightweight transport idea is underrated vs heavy REST APIs.

sbinnee

11 hours ago

Nice. I had some fun. Good work!

One question. Sonnet for tool use? I am just guessing here that you may have a lot of MCPs to call and for that Sonnet is more reliable. How many MCPs are you running and what kinds?

chatmasta

9 hours ago

> That boundary is deliberate: the public box has no access to private data.

Challenge accepted? It’d be fun to put this to the test by putting a CTF flag on the private box at a location nully isn’t supposed to be able to access. If someone sends you the flag, you owe them 50 bucks :)

iammrpayments

3 hours ago

That was very educational, I found out I didn't know a lot of stuff.

greesil

7 hours ago

How do you keep it from getting prompt injected?

Oh I get it the runtimes are nice and small, you're using Claude for the intelligence. Obv

I think I'm just impressed with anthropic more than anything. Defcon would have me believe that prompt injections are trivial

consumer451

9 hours ago

The demo seems to be in a messed up state at the moment. Maybe it's just getting hammered and too far behind?

johnisgood

9 hours ago

Yeah, should probably implement rate-limiting. HNers were wildin'. :D

consumer451

9 hours ago

Working better now. But, what just happened with that inappropriate link from nully?

Is handle impersonation possible here, or was it worse than that? Or, just a joke?

oceliker

9 hours ago

Someone snatched the username when the actual nully left.

Henchman21

9 hours ago

IRC without nickserv, good times

consumer451

9 hours ago

That's pretty darn funny. The impostor should have given some believable responses to keep it going.

jaboostin

8 hours ago

lol I sent this link to my Claude bot connected to my Discord server and it started converting with nully and another bot named clawdia. moltbook all over again. I’m surprised how effortlessly it connected to IRC and started talking.

anoojb

8 hours ago

I wonder if this brings back demand for IRC clients on mobile devices? ;-)

agnishom

9 hours ago

> The model can't tell you anything the resume doesn't already say.

Good observation. But I would worry that in the scenario when this setup is the most successful, you have built a public facing bot that allows people to dox you.

ruptwelve

7 hours ago

While I am a huge fan of IRC, wouldn't be simpler to simulate IRC, since you are embedding it? Or is the chatroom the actual point? Kudos on the project!

messh

8 hours ago

Can be significantly cheaper on a vm that wakes up only when yhe agebt works, see for e.g. https://shellbox.dev

mememememememo

9 hours ago

Yeah that chat got hosed by HN as any Show HN $communicationchannel does

iLoveOncall

11 hours ago

The model used is a Claude model, not self-hosted, so I'm not sure why the infrastructure is at all relevant here, except as click bait?

jazzyjackson

10 hours ago

It’s not that deep, show HN is just that, show and tell, I seriously doubt this was built just to get engagement on social media

petcat

11 hours ago

Meh it's kind of interesting. Even if it is just a ridiculously over engineered agent orchestrator for a chat box and code search

echelon

11 hours ago

We need more infra in the cloud instead of focusing on local RTX cards.

We need OpenRunPods to run thick open weights models.

Build in the cloud rather than bet on "at the edge" being a Renaissance.

ekianjo

8 hours ago

But relying on a Claude API so you don't really "own the stack" as claimed in the article...

selcuka

7 hours ago

Aren't LLMs commodity products these days? It's the same thing as running this on a $7 VPS that you don't "own".

I don't think switching to a different provider, or running an open one locally would affect the response quality that much.

ekianjo

7 hours ago

The LLM is the key element here, not the 7 dollars VPS... The model itself has cost billions of dollars to train and of the service shuts down or is interrupted for some reason your fancy setup breaks like nothing.

selcuka

7 hours ago

> The model itself has cost billions of dollars to train

But that has nothing to do with this use case, right? By the same logic, Linux has millions of man-hours went into it but we can use it for free on a $7 VPS.

> service shuts down or is interrupted for some reason your fancy setup breaks like nothing

No, it doesn't. That's what I meant by commodity. You can switch to another service and it will work just fine (unless you meant that all LLM providers might cease to exist).

Also note that they have a $2/day API usage cap, meaning that they are willing to spend $60+/month for the LLM use. If everything else fails, they can use those funds to upgrade the VPS and run a local model on their own hardware. It won't be Sonnet-4.6-level, but it will do. It just doesn't make sense with current dollar-per-token prices.

chatmasta

6 hours ago

> The LLM is the key element here

No, the key (novel) element here is the two-tiered approach to sandboxing and inter-agent communication. That’s why he spends most of the post talking about it and only a few sentences on which models he selected.

ozozozd

6 hours ago

Super cool! Love seeing IRC in the wild.

Kudos and best of luck!

appstorelottery

5 hours ago

Lol. /nick The IRC implementation needs to be a bit more locked down. EDIT: So much fun to be in an IRC chat room - replete with trolling! Like a Time Machine to the 90's!

topaz0

7 hours ago

Curious, which API key are you using?

Imustaskforhelp

4 hours ago

I have a 7$/yr vps 512mb ram which can run this. I have run crush from the charmbracelet team on the vps and all of it just works and I get an AI agent which I can even use with Openrouter free api key to get some free agentic access for free or have it work with the free gemini key :-)

eric_khun

10 hours ago

that's so fun ! how do you know when to call haiku or sonnet?

m00dy

9 hours ago

Did you give your email access to a AI provider ?

slopinthebag

9 hours ago

I can tell it's vibe coded because it takes about 1 minute for a message to appear.

consumer451

8 hours ago

He had to put rate limits on it as it was getting hammered to hard by HNers.