smokel
4 hours ago
I understand that in a research lab or in academia, this is common practice. But in the more menial coding industry that most of us are probably in, how do you find time for this? Do people read papers in their spare time and discuss over lunch, or are there enlightened managers who support this during working hours?
Foe
4 hours ago
Good question. Most people read the paper on their own time, and we meet over lunch. The meetings themselves are just an hour, so it's not a massive time block. I've found that the people who show up are the ones who are genuinely curious and would be reading this stuff anyway (and sometimes just need a commitment/accountability to do it). Having a group gives them a reason to do it on a schedule.
oa335
3 hours ago
> The meetings themselves are just an hour, so it's not a massive time block
How exactly are the meetings structured? I.e is someone leading discussions? Does each person go around and share thoughts? Etc
zihotki
3 hours ago
That implies that you have a fixed time for lunch and also chat during lunch. I may be the minority but I prefer to eat when I'm hungry and focus on the food instead of chatting. And there is also allergies, as a celiac, I have big troubles eating together with others - they may accidently contaminate my food
tanjtanjtanj
12 minutes ago
I’m actually curious here, not trying to question your experience but does other people’s food regularly contaminate your food when you eat at the same table as them?
I’ve lived with a celiac sufferer before and I’ve never heard of something that extreme, but everyone’s different.
munchbunny
17 minutes ago
I sneak thirty minutes in here and there for it regardless of my manager. If you work, say, 40-45 hours a week, you’re probably doing 20 hours of true focused productivity. It’s easier to borrow here and there from the other half of the time to flip through a paper or two.
zihotki
3 hours ago
This is a very good question. I also struggle to find a good solution to process various signals (papers, tecniques, etc.) with my co-workers while maintaining proper work-life balance. Either you have to be a full time geek, or be left behind..
eldenring
4 hours ago
I'm not sure what you mean by menial coding but all my employers have supported this in the past. This was a variety of companies, big tech, startups, etc. I think its more likely your employer is the outlier.
nico
3 hours ago
I’ve been scolded for reading books and documentation for the tasks and software I was asked to build (at a startup) during my regular work hours
No company I’ve worked at has ever had dedicated time for reading papers or articles
Maybe I’ve only worked at outliers?
userbinator
an hour ago
All the companies I've worked at implicitly assume that you're supposed to use your working hours for more than just coding, including learning what you need for the task at hand, although if you're looking at very beginner material that might raise some suspicion.
johngossman
3 hours ago
In 35 years in the industry, reading and studying during work hours were always supported. Frankly, most places would let us play video games during work hours as long as we met our deadlines.
thi2
3 hours ago
Thats my experience as well. Of course not ten paper a day but some learning is always encouraged.
One company had a +1 day. You worked 4 days, had 1 day for learning - everything relevant for the job was fine.
markn951
3 hours ago
Speaking as a SWE manager who explicitly “mandates” (not actually mandatory but I strongly encourage following your passions and interests in an academic kind of way!) we do exist, I assume I’m not the only one :)
My team almost always can find an hour between tasks organically so I’ve never really had to push