tolerance
8 hours ago
What percentage of this is lawslop?
https://github.com/righttoprivacyact/bill/tree/main/tests
There’s clearly a non-trivial level of LLM involvement.
I want to say 100% lawslop. I can’t figure out who’s behind this to ascertain their qualifications and acumen in the space.
100% seems like a safe place to start speculating from but I can be talked down.
duskdozer
3 hours ago
Who has ever written like this:
(a) In general.—There are authorizedddtaylor
3 hours ago
I think this kind of argument is a modified version of an ad-hominem attack.
When you disagree with an argument, you are supposed to address the argument itself, not the thing making the argument.
hananova
3 hours ago
Ad-hominem (literally: "to the person") requires a person on the other side of the argument. This wasn't made or written by a person, thus ad-hominem does not apply.
samrus
9 minutes ago
Thats a bit pedantic. Youre still arguing against an entity rather than addressing the argument.
If you prompted an LLM to make a PSA that people should brush their teeth, is it a fair to argue that brushing your teeth is bad because an LLM made the argument?
grumpymuppet
2 hours ago
Presumably why the person you are responding to called it a modified ad hominem.
watwut
3 hours ago
That went out of window and provably failed even before LLM. The strategy of flooding everything with cheap false claims and arguments while demanding that the opponent spends increasing amount of effort and time was a success even before. It became worst with LLM.
So, no, you are making the claim, first prove it is worth any of that effort.
ddtaylor
2 hours ago
This seems like a chicken and egg problem.
api
3 hours ago
Made me coin a term.
Ad hominllm: the dismissal of a work or an argument because an LLM was, or may have been, used in its construction or editing.
lich_king
7 hours ago
Yeah, most charitably, it seems to be some sort of an LLM art project. And it's another day when we engage with slop because it happens to say something we like.
garyfirestorm
8 hours ago
As opposed to bills sponsored by real people that completely decimated privacy? Patriot Act? I’ll take slop that has some semblance of reasonable privacy protection any day.
ramon156
6 hours ago
There's some obvious issues that come with LLM generated bills. LLMs tend to stay very generic, to have a lower chance of being "wrong".
I could also ask my 5 year old to draw a bill for me, that's as successful as giving a generic bill.
int_19h
4 hours ago
> LLMs tend to stay very generic, to have a lower chance of being "wrong".
It depends entirely on how you prompt them.