The UK tourist with a valid visa detained by ICE for six weeks

24 pointsposted 10 hours ago
by n1b0m
(theguardian.com)

11 Comments

tim-tday

7 minutes ago

Why would any tourist travel to the United States in the current situation?

denuoweb

10 hours ago

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manfromchina1

4 hours ago

A US visa is typically for entering only. It doesnt say anything about the duration of stay. The latter is determined by CBP at the port of entrance and printed on your I-94. This is never emphasized anywhere.

defrost

9 hours ago

> the British don't need a visa to come to America as tourists.

They require a visa OR a visa equivalent.

  To enter or transit through the US, you must have either an Electronic System for Travel Authorisation (ESTA) OR a visa.
GOV.UK travel advice to UK nationals seeking US entry. https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/usa/entry-requireme...

The woman having a visa is common and doesn't negate the tale told.

denuoweb

6 hours ago

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defrost

6 hours ago

Read again:

  The dream holiday ended abruptly on Friday 26 September, as Karen and Bill were trying to leave the US. When they crossed the border, Canadian officials told them they didn’t have the correct paperwork to bring the car with them. They were turned back to Montana on the American side – and to US border control officials. Bill’s US visa had expired; Karen’s had not.
and

   Karen was incarcerated for a total of six weeks – even though she had been travelling with a valid visa.
Not her husbands. Her tourist visa.

If you have better sources for the events of this incident then by all means provide them.

> But I get it, you are into outrage culture

Read again: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Do better.

TacticalCoder

9 hours ago

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kenloef

8 hours ago

There is a principle in criminal law called Blackstone's Ratio:

"It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer.”

Does this fit into your conception of justice? Why or why not?

defrost

9 hours ago

> never reporting on the actual criminals arrested by ICE

Because the numbers are so low.

Still, don't despair, the shortfall is over inflated by Fox News and their ilk who make a major production out of the the few actual criminals deported (although they rarely report on the citizens who are arrested)

Swings and arrows (as the saying doesn't go).

Less than 14% of those arrested by ICE in Trump's 1st year back in office had violent criminal records, document shows

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-arrests-violent-criminal-re...

user

8 hours ago

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