I have a very interesting story about these guys from well over 10 years ago.

I was at a conference, had my laptop and was doing a little impromptu demo for some software guys, but I wasn't looking for funding. I had already been in business for more than a decade anyway. There were no "slides" at all, just my code in operation. Very few people had gathered around.

One of their partners was there, introduced himself and was enthusiastic as could be.

I'll have to write this one down some time, but it would just be another one of those walls of text :\