Lol the CEO of Palantir said enthusiastically during an investor conference that it's necessary on occasion to kill his enemies, why would you think tech reputations would get torched? If anything it should be a boon when getting hired for big tech. As the government becomes more fascist and more integrated with industry, these contracts will be more and more important and enthusiastically embracing the anti-domestic-terrorist line will improve reputations even more.

They shamed themselves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsl_sKYywEI

Unfortunately ... it's all of them.

I see that as wishful thinking. HN has always been very much right leaning. I very much doubt much has changed.

> My suspicion is that, here on HN, the number has dwindled considerably

What makes you think that? The number of articles that get flagged and the pattern of the flagging and down voting would suggest that not to be true even if the actual comments might have slowed

I agree, sadly we do not have any leadership pushing for this yet.

> How do you cult de-program 40% of the population of the most powerful country on the planet?

If history is any guide, that doesn't happen without a substantial - existential, perhaps - exogenous shock.

Oh, that's easy. You see people vote like this if they don't advance economically. So what you need is to create a decade or so of economic advancement for >50% of the US.

If that doesn't happen, odds are that even if a democrat president gets elected, they won't be much better. This is still the fallout of the GFC, of the decision to bail out the banks back then.

I know that sounds incredible, and I would have bitten off the head of anyone claiming this when I was 20 ... but it's how the world works.

There is a difference between not liking someone for substantive and non-substantive reasons. I have military training that is adjacent to policing because that was one of the objectives of the theater I was in.

Informed by that training I would never:

- shoot someone when they are being detained

- shoot someone simply because they have a gun

- stand next to a vehicle so as to postulate the vehicle as a weapon

When I don't like Kristi Noem it isn't because she's Kristi Noem, because she's a woman, or because she shot a puppy she didn't like. It's because her actions and policy that she defends and writes don't agree with the ethics of the training I received.

You can do this thought exercise across this administration and arrive at the same conclusions of most of the key-holding individuals.

Violating the laws of our country while being in a position of public trust reaches a higher standard than “politicians I don’t like” IMHO.

You'll really like how they're gearing up to fix the 2026 vote, then. Or just abolish it.

https://people.com/pam-bondi-full-letter-tim-walz-after-alex...

That's not at all what the person you responded to said. I'm not sure if you're intentionally misrepresenting their statement or if you're just reading too quickly or are under-caffeinated or whatever.

Downplaying people getting shot in the face does you no favors

Phase for the day: rule of law

Uncle Joe and Aunt Lucy aren’t reading Ars Technica. You know where their eyes and ears are glued. Critical reading is reserved for the HN crowd.

In this instance, we've already got law enforcement using fiction to obfuscate fact.

Probably not long before we see sora style videos of a 'new angle' of a controversial event, showing that the protestor / victim did in face have a gun / deserve it

Only, it's members of the federal government overtly spreading disinformation and laughing about it. It will be a miracle if anything is left of the law enforcement and judiciary that would push back in three years' time.

When and where from?

The other side of the voters has happily expanded the power of the executive for decades while demonizing those who would put in some restraint. Both sides do this and here we are. The people voting against Trump still gave him power, just not while he was in office.

Can you elaborate?

The corollary is that literally everything that the US government communicates should be assumed to be a lie. Even normal, boring announcements from the USDA and such are communicated in the voice of a terminally-online twitter troll.

Its the Firehose of falsehood. Pioneered in Putin's Russia. It is extremely effective.

There is lots of propaganda being pushed online with fake accounts. Checkmarks and pictures of a face do not make a real account.

Yes, extremely tricky. Imo the current ruling class just needs to mess up just on thing, because there is a deep underlaying discontent with the subjectively felt way of living in our modern societies. So housing / migrants are just the spark.

The instant there is armed pushback, Trump will declare martial law. It's entirely plausible that had there not been so many people with cameras around, this would have been used as the excuse.

The best thing to do is to be out there recording everything. You are right that they are emboldened, so you're putting yourself in danger by filming. When people continue to do that despite the danger, and despite the internal or external pressure to escalate, it shows more people what's really happening.

I've witnessed people change their position on ICE's actions based on the video evidence of the last killing. Videos 1 and 2 weren't convincing to them, but the 3rd angle was. That's important, because they now know that the administration is lying in the face of directly contradicting evidence.

I’m not convinced we’d be in a better place if the ICE officer had been shot in self defense. It’s a really powerful story and cements to ‘normal people’ who are just barely following the news what ICE is like.

FWIW I do think things might be different later but there’s still a lot of room for escalation left

What a bitchy comment

Do yourself a favor and sit this one out while the rest of us fix it.

There's a lot of folk out here downvoting my protest and boycott encouragement. I just assume they're do nothing goobers or worse.

The sad fact is, even most of the people who're sympathetic to democracy and human rights will do just about zero to protect or fight for them.

I don't really know what else to do though, so I keep trying!

It’s both condescending and unhelpful, since the people doing the violence aren’t on here reading hn.

Ah, I had replied before your parenthetical addition. That portion made the /s clear.