Alex Honnold completes Taipei 101 skyscraper climb without ropes or safety net

130 pointsposted 12 hours ago
by keepamovin

100 Comments

TheAceOfHearts

8 hours ago

I need to share a video [0] which helped contextualize Alex Honnold for me by contrasting him with another climber I've watched for years: Magnus Midtbo. In this video they're solo climbing a fairly simple and safe mountain, and Magnus is visibly stressed out while Alex calmly shouts encouragement all while recording.

When watching Alex Honnold in Free Solo, I understood there was a exceptional aspect to him, but it took me seeing him climb with other people to really grasp the magnitude.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cyya23MPoAI

kqr

7 hours ago

I suspect a lot of this is habituation due to repeated practise. As long as one climbs well within one's abilities, the actual level of danger is comparatively low. But the fear is still there and needs to be trained away.

padjo

5 hours ago

I don't think it required much training for Alex, I think he just has an under active amygdala or something

e40

2 hours ago

That’s the impression I got: he doesn’t feel fear like the rest of us.

parthdesai

35 minutes ago

That’s not true, he has debunked that. It’s due to repeated practice and his confidence in his skill set that he doesn’t feel fear under those conditions

throwaway290

an hour ago

is it possible to suppress amygdala? asking for a friend

botacode

12 hours ago

We had the privilege to watch at first from the SE corner of the building and later as he climbed by the the observation deck on the 89th floor. Hair raising stuff I'll never forget.

potamic

9 hours ago

I, on the other hand, had the privilege not to watch this. I don't know how one can without feeling sick to the stomach.

kqr

8 hours ago

There are many answers depending on what you meant by this, but in terms of actual risk this is probably not much worse to him than e.g. riding a motorcycle, and certainly better than what it would have been to be crew on the space shuttle.

keepamovin

12 hours ago

Wow that's awesome! You saw him climb past your windows! Must be a Googler

botacode

6 hours ago

Nope! Startup founder who happened to be visiting Taiwan at the right time.

The Googlers had way better views XD

eric_khun

6 hours ago

Do you know if there was any guidelines to not "disturb" during his climb? Was shocked by how many people tried to distract him during that climb

botacode

6 hours ago

They kept most folks pretty far away, you needed a pass or to work in one of the offices to get really close.

I was also terrified when ppl would engage with him directly lol

clickety_clack

2 hours ago

I think anyone who’s ever worked in construction would balk at the idea of hanging your life on pieces of building facade. Except for the the pieces stopping people falling through the outside windows and walls themselves, most of the outside decorative stuff is only designed to hold itself onto the building and not much more. He’s potentially hanging his 200lbs on something that’s intended to hold 0lbs.

rurban

2 hours ago

No, you forgot that architects count the wind forces in, not just the weight of pieces hanging onto the facade. Give them dynamic spikes of factor 10, so it looks more like 1000lbs. Only once you can get your engineers to agree on only factor 2, you can build much much lighter structures.

clickety_clack

an hour ago

No I didn’t, you’re talking about big sheets of stuff, which probably won’t have anything to hold onto on it. I’m talking about the fiddly little bits that he’s likely to be holding onto. A little bit of flashing around a window has a wind load approaching zero.

iamcreasy

11 hours ago

In his El Capitan climb (Free Solo), Alex was worried about cameras or presence of friends watching interfering with the climb. As oppose to that, this climb must have felt very different!

mykowebhn

10 hours ago

I'm wondering if this is because El Capitan is a much more technically difficult climb and thus posing much more risk than Taipei 101.

bookofjoe

22 minutes ago

>Climbing star, 23, dies after falling from Yosemite's El Capitan [this past Wednesday]

>Balin Miller, 23, was live-streamed on TikTok ascending and subsequently falling from the monolith on Wednesday.

>Details of what caused the incident are not clear, but Miller's brother Dylan told AFP he was lead rope soloing - a technique that enables climbing alone while still protected by a rope - on a 2,400ft (730m) route named Sea of Dreams.

>He had finished the climb and was hauling up equipment when he likely rappelled off the end of his rope, Dylan said.

>Tom Evans, a Yosemite-based photographer who witnessed Miller fall, told Climbing magazine he called 911 after Miller tried to free his bag, which was stuck on a rock.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz08jp4xv2jo

https://archive.ph/vjETS

remus

6 hours ago

Yes, Freerider (the route he climbed on El Capitan) is much harder than the climbing on Taipei 101. The style of climbing is also very important, some of the moves on Freerider are very insecure and hard to climb in a reliable way, whereas on Taipei the difficulty largely comes from doing the same moves over and over again which means your body gets tired in a specific ways.

The climbing on Taipei was way more chill for him than the climbing on Freerider.

iamcreasy

5 hours ago

I was surprised to see him take breaks and wave at the crowd. Very different vibe.

bmitc

9 hours ago

He was able to practice El Capitan over and over, though. Was he able to in Tapei?

mapasj

7 hours ago

Yes, this past week he was doing a lot of practice with a rope. This building isn't new to him. He's also climbed it in previous years I believe.

andrew_lettuce

9 hours ago

I'd assume - unlike El Capitan - the pitches here are all pretty much identical, so by the time he got to the third or fourth floor he had it figured out

dmazzoni

8 hours ago

If you watch the climb you'll see that the skyscraper definitely wasn't quite so straightforward - there were some interesting challenges along the way.

Of course, no question El Cap was technically far more challenging.

iamcreasy

9 hours ago

He must have. My impression from the documentary is that he practice the climb route many times with safety gear first.

komali2

11 hours ago

I wondered the same because there was a helicopter the entire time. Also the very tip top of Taipei 101 appeared to have many cameras mounted on it, at least through binoculars.

peterldowns

12 hours ago

One of the most incredible feats of strength and daring I've ever witnessed. The only thing at all comparable was watching Baumgartner freefall back to earth from the edge of space. Unbelievable!

keepamovin

12 hours ago

Yeah that was a great moment when that happened! I remember watching that, and then a couple weeks (?) later were the Snowden docs? That was quite a year, iirc.

SilverSlash

10 hours ago

This was far more thrilling and exciting to watch than I thought it would be. Which feels wrong when I say it, but I don't mean it was a good watch because of the consequences of failing. Rather because it was amazing watching a human perform at such a peak level.

komali2

11 hours ago

I and some friends observed his climb from the base of Taipei 101. Thousands of people were present and it was very good fun how the crowd would react when he made it to another ledge, and when he made it to the top people were shouting and cheering. It was like a great big party.

I imagine Threads and Instagram just got hit with like ten thousand vertical video clips of the climb if you're interested in seeing for yourself.

For me it was almost scary how abruptly he started and made it up the first ledge. Dude just fuckin went for it. Made me realize, for the first time, how truly incredible the feat was to be.

The observation deck level is often so windy I worry about losing my phone if I take it out. I can't comprehend how he managed that wind while hanging on by his fingertips. Then he stood at the tippy top for quite some time, which must be unbelievably windy. At some point he was tethered in for the rapelle down though so maybe he clipped in right as he got to the top.

weird-eye-issue

11 hours ago

He was not clipped in while standing at the top. That part actually made me the most nervous because you could see the wind blowing him around

komali2

10 hours ago

Ah I haven't watched the videos yet, just what I could see through binoculars. When did he clip in to rapelle down? Immediately before doing so?

I wonder what he was thinking about up there.

keepamovin

8 hours ago

Probably nothing, at least for a moment, and that's the point. Then maybe: Another summit, another view, another inspiration. What's next? while feeling immense gratitude for his life and his family, and like this is where he's meant to be. And probably wanting to get someplace warm.

torlok

11 hours ago

I thought he had freakishly large hands before, but that picture of him on the top with his hands in the air makes him look like the lawyer uncle from Always Sunny. He's built for free solo.

prein

11 hours ago

I know nothing about climbing. beyond the straight flex of "I could die if I make a mistake", is there a point to doing this without safety equipment?

komali2

11 hours ago

He's spoken about it extensively in interviews. Watch his El Capitan movie or recent interviews before this climb.

He just finds it very peaceful and thrilling. "Just him and the climb" kind of language.

Also I suppose clout has to be involved: only person to free solo El Capitan, as far as I know the only person to climb Taipei 101 let alone free solo (did the spiderman guy ever make it or was he arrested?)

Insanity

11 hours ago

I guess watching the film ('free solo' is the one you mention) is the lowest effort way of getting his perspective and I recommend the film.

For a deeper dive, the book "Alone on the wall" is a good read and I recommend it. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/36531127-alone-on-the-wa..., although that said the book might be less appealing to someone who 'knows nothing about climbing' and is more of a time investment than the short documentary :)

tempestn

10 hours ago

I believe it's also documented that he has an underdeveloped amygdala, so he literally doesn't experience fear in the same way most people do.

kqr

6 hours ago

...which is easily misconstrued as "feeling less fear" which I don't believe for a second. If that was the case he'd be dead by now.

But it's certainly time we admit everyone feels feelings diferently. Even something basal like pain experience is hugely individual with large variation.

abrookewood

10 hours ago

Second person to climb it (Spidey got there first), but only one to free solo it.

kqr

6 hours ago

Money! He has a family to provide for and his unique skillset is "climbing below his grade but with no support", so that's the service he offers the world.

(I get that there are more motivations underneath free soloing in general, but I doubt Taipei 101 with a million cameras is the climb he'd choose if it were not for the money.)

Insanity

11 hours ago

We watched the livestream together, such a stressful watch, glad he made it up there. As my partner and both do bouldering, it definitely gives another level of appreciation of just how insane this is. (I still get stressed at times when I'm just 2-3m up in the air lol).

defrost

11 hours ago

In other tower climbing events, some things cannot be free climbed (too smooth, fingers aren't made for window cleaning tracks, etc).

The 1988 ascent of the Sydney Centrepoint was a technical climb with custom jumars for both the cables and the window tracks and a fun challenge for all, both the scouting, the climb, and the filming.

Originally titled The Only Building I Ever Wanted To Climb, later released as A Spire, there's a documentary film that follows a climb at night of "only" 1,000 feet.

... with a massive overhang.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Tower

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qch1Gd8VLK0

emilbratt

8 hours ago

About to watch the film now. I know there are controversial aspects to this, but in my opinion this is something I myself need to allow happen. Alex know it himself, that there is a risk of ending it, but most people will not understand the feelings he get before, during and after a climb. So who am I to judge from my couch in my livingroom whether he should be allowed to pursue his lifestyle or not. He is not actively hurting anyone.

sph

8 hours ago

The issue with moralistic people is that they feel they have a duty to preach their opinions unto everybody else.

One should be free to do whatever they want with their own life, provided they don’t hurt anyone else.

eudamoniac

7 hours ago

He has a young child.

tasuki

6 hours ago

Many people do.

He mentioned he considers partying more dangerous than climbing. I can't tell how dangerous his stunts are, but he's still alive, so perhaps he knows what he's doing?

eudamoniac

2 minutes ago

You don't seriously believe that. He's mentally ill as far as I'm concerned. He will influence more kids to do stupid things and die, just like Balin Miller, and eventually leave his child fatherless if he continues. I have the opposite of respect for his feats.

rattray

11 hours ago

Does anyone have a link to good video footage of the climb?

jml7c5

11 hours ago

Netflix has a stream with close-up cameras, as they were the ones who arranged the whole thing. Unfortunately the commentary and color grading are both terrible: https://www.netflix.com/watch/81987107

A YouTube search pulls up a stream filmed from the ground (a nearby building?) using a zoom lens: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzthkg2ti2Q

fuzzythinker

7 hours ago

My heart beats fast just watching him. I wonder if the path has been clean/power washed before the climb.

drcongo

4 hours ago

Netflix have absoluely no taste. Everything they make has unbearbly bland cinematography.

andsoitis

2 hours ago

this was a live stream... the camera work was incredible, did you see it?

andsoitis

12 hours ago

watching in Live on Netflix was riveting

lordclayton

9 hours ago

Great feat of strength, determination and athleticism! I also hope Netflix stays as far away from this as possible.

thefz

6 hours ago

After watching the documentary about him I don't really like the person, but here's my take: will he be doing the same if there was no TV, nor social media?

kqr

6 hours ago

He's been doing this since he was a child, much of it without TV and social media. But this specific tower? Doubt it.

UltraSane

11 hours ago

This is a very irresponsible thing to do when you have children.

iamcreasy

5 hours ago

Alex Honnold: No free soloist ever died doing anything cutting edge. Nobody died doing something really hard. A handful people died doing things that are easy. Most soloist died in different types of accidents...base jumping, rogue wave.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9WWUNDb_S0o

dangus

2 hours ago

Factually inaccurate, the Wikipedia page for free solo climbing has an entire section on prominent free solo climber deaths.

In my view this guy is pretty irresponsible especially for promoting a “sport” that is unnecessarily dangerous in the most preventable way imaginable.

A bunch of kids and stupid adults watched that live stream and a non-zero amount of them now think they can try the same thing without anywhere near as much training and skill.

hiddencost

11 hours ago

Yeah I hope he made enough money to stop.

Insanity

11 hours ago

I'm not saying money wasn't a factor in his decision to do this for a livestream, but it clearly wouldn't be the only factor and I doubt that would make him stop. (He free solo'd before, without cameras, although not this building).

For people like Alex, it's much more about the thrill, the experience, and 'proving' themselves than it is about money.

UltraSane

9 hours ago

He didn't have kids when he free soloed the mountain.

Insanity

9 hours ago

Sure but that is not related to the argument I'm making (or the post I commented on)

SilverSlash

10 hours ago

I think NYT said their sources claim he was paid mid 6-figures? Which is really shitty of Netflix. If I were him I would've asked for at least $5M.

squigz

11 hours ago

Stuff like this seems a bit... selfish? to me. Why risk falling, and people having to see that/having to clean that up? For a bit of adrenaline and publicity? Meh.

komali2

11 hours ago

The Taipei tourism bureau disagrees. Many here as well. The more eyes on Taiwan, the better. I'm grateful Alex was willing to risk his life for this spectacle, now potentially millions will have at least some concept of Taipei and Taiwan in their minds.

SecretDreams

11 hours ago

Did he do this climb with no safety equipment for Taiwan or for Alex?

I'm with the OP - watching people so willfully put their lives in danger isn't my cup of tea. I'm just glad he didn't die.

komali2

10 hours ago

You put your life in danger every time you get behind the wheel of a car. Statistically more danger than a free solo climber.

qnpnpmqppnp

8 hours ago

> Statistically more danger than a free solo climber.

While I don't have statistics on free solo death rate per climb compared to death per car trip, this is most likely very, very wrong. You should really stop throwing such strange wild claims..

komali2

7 hours ago

Of all the thousands of times tens of thousands people climb, only 30 die per year. Of that 30, 30% are free solo deaths.

Free solo climbing is incredibly dangerous, but the people who do it (usually) prepare extensively and train their whole lives.

https://gitnux.org/rock-climbing-death-statistics/

This is in contradiction to the experience of driving, where any number of people on the road with you are untrained, undertrained, drunk, or suffering diseases that affect their ability to drive. Or just doing crimes like speeding or dangerous driving. So when climbing, your fate is entirely in your hands and that of nature's. When driving, it's in the hands of many strangers.

tempestn

10 hours ago

Driving is more dangerous than a lot of things, but free solo definitely isn't one of them.

kelnos

10 hours ago

False equivalence. It's by no means required to free climb a skyscraper. While you might say it's also not required to get behind the wheel of a car, the difficulty in getting places (like a job, for example) without doing so in many locations makes it more or less required.

komali2

9 hours ago

Well then rather than criticize a guy for doing an extreme sport, perhaps we can direct our energy inwards towards why we allowed ourselves to design such a fatal society.

andrew_lettuce

9 hours ago

Except, using your malleable logic the response is easy, this is Honnold's job.

pengaru

8 hours ago

Some people drive to their jobs, some people climb shit as their jobs... where's the problem?

SecretDreams

2 hours ago

Even the best drivers wear seatbelts.

squigz

11 hours ago

That a government would be willing to risk this for publicity isn't really changing my mind.

"Come to Taiwan; you may or may not watch someone plummet to their death while here" doesn't appeal to me, personally anyway. Anyway that guy that did it with safety equipment a few years back made the rounds in the news too, so not sure this was necessary in that regard.

komali2

10 hours ago

C'mon, didn't some guy do a skydive from nearly outer space? Do you criticize the country he landed in? Or red bull for sponsoring it or the many other extreme sports?

Injury and death happens in rock climbing even when tethered. Not often but it does happen, that's the nature of the sport and it's the same as BMX, skateboarding, motocross, any kind of racing.

It's also the same as just living - go look up Taiwan traffic deaths. There's so much more dangerous things happening here and wherever you live, it just seems silly to criticize someone for doing an extreme sport publicly.

There's like one injury per NFL game ffs...

squigz

10 hours ago

If Baumgartner - or any athlete/governing body for a sport - forewent safety measures to make it a better spectacle, then yes, I would be criticizing them!

komali2

9 hours ago

They all forgo the safety measures of "don't smash into each other's heads" despite repeated studies showing NFL players frequently have long term brain damage from the sport.

It's an extreme sport and a thrilling thing to watch. The danger is exciting and makes his accomplishment all the more stunning. I think it's really cool that there are humans willing to push the limits of the human experience like this.

mvdtnz

10 hours ago

Don't watch then. Clearly enough people around the world found some kind of value in it. If you didn't, just jog on.

mvdtnz

12 hours ago

Very impressive feat, no doubt about it. But the commentary on the Netflix broadcast ruined the spectator experience completely. It was utterly unbearable.

kaptain

11 hours ago

The Taiwanese live feed news channels on YouTube were great. Little to no commentary and you could hear the crowd engagement.

cebert

12 hours ago

I thought the same thing. Half the time I wished they would just keep quiet.

keepamovin

12 hours ago

Then again, there's always Mute. Turn up your favorite music/sound or just silence. Could be good

shimman

11 hours ago

Honestly surprised that there was no audio option to disable the commentators.

yourapostasy

11 hours ago

With the Netflix infrastructure, I'm surprised they broadcast it so conventionally. Different channels running at the same time (with the crowd at the bottom, with the crowds as he passed each floor, with his wife watching, with pro climbers talking technical climbing stuff with simultaneous 8K online illustrating graphics, etc.), different audio tracks (with commentators, with crowd at bottom only, etc.*). Alex Honnold was paid only $500K for the event, so maybe there simply wasn't a lot of money allocated to the project to get fancy with the live broadcast.