OpenAI's GPT-5.2 model cites Grokipedia

41 pointsposted 12 hours ago
by bhouston

18 Comments

ctmnt

11 hours ago

Opus 4.5 often does this as well. I’ve been seeing it more days than not recently. It drives me nuts. Is it worse than citations that don’t exist or citations that are “real” but don’t actually contain any salient content? I’m not sure.

kemotep

10 hours ago

I had duckduckgo return a grokapedia page for the first time. The search page has preview text making it seem like there was information so I clicked the link to check it out and it was a 404 page. What kind of SEO hack is that? Information for the crawler but nothing on the actual page?

countWSS

7 hours ago

It seems to be adding tons of articles, then some of them get deleted. I assume it's been allocated lots of compute. The entire model is outcompeting wikipedia on quantity per topic. If wikipedia merges/integrates some article and Grokipedia has a specific page for it, the search engine/LLM will get that version front and center. Grokipedia seems to have no scope limit, so wikipedia "non-notable" entries will be SEO-optimized towards sites with the topic-names, eventually settling on AI content farms as primary destination.

diamond559

11 hours ago

Don't worry, its "safety" features will shield all corporate liability while your kids are indoctrinated by 4chan written "history" regurgitated to you through Microsoft brand "AI"!

simianwords

5 hours ago

Shoe any example of such an article?

SilverElfin

9 hours ago

This is pretty dangerous because most people will not check the sources that LLMs are referring to. Grokipedia uses Grok and Grok trains on X, which is highly manipulated by both X itself (lots of people allege suppressed reach and other forms of shadow bans if you’re left of MAGA) and by bots. Not to mention the platform is naturally one sided when toxic content (racists, misogynists, outright supremacists, etc) drives away those of different views. For example look at Vivek Ramaswamy quitting X recently after all his posts got flooded with nearly 100% vile racist replies.

Der_Einzige

8 hours ago

He deserves it unironically. I love his tweets and that he tried to speak truth to power to republicans (i.e. calling them/Americans out for being mean to nerds and not glorifying nerds like they do in asia), but he deserves to see that his brand of political thought almost always leads to extreme, virulent racism.

People who vote for leopards NEED to have their faces ate.

SilverElfin

7 hours ago

I don’t know. I felt he was the best version of what the right COULD be. Seeing that attacked with vile racism makes me sad.

ratg13

5 hours ago

Recently I asked an obscure question and it thought for awhile and it gave me a lot of output with sources.

Over half the citations were from Grok .. not even grokipedia .. just “share” pages from questions other people asked.

simianwords

4 hours ago

How can that work? They are not indexed by Search. They don't pop up in Google

ratg13

2 hours ago

Maybe someone is posting links to a webpage somewhere?

I don't have the exact question I asked it, but it was about the use of baby foreskin in beauty products.

I just asked it a similar and more simplified question: "are there beauty products that still use baby foreskin as an ingredient" .. and grok was 1/3 sources .. my initial question it was 3/6 sources.

Citations to pages like:

https://x.com/i/grok/share/2q3paAYZAsTD2OU5RAMxFEdid?utm_sou...

OGEnthusiast

11 hours ago

This sounds more like an issue with whatever web search/index tool GPT is using rather than the language model itself.

lazzlazzlazz

6 hours ago

This makes sense. I already use Grokipedia maybe 50% of the time. If you really dig into things, it is - incredibly - more accurate. I often find glaring errors or biases in Wikipedia, especially over the last 5 years.

Imustaskforhelp

38 minutes ago

are you sure that what you count as bias is actually just reality but you consider it bias.

And what's actually biased (see SilverElfin's comment) you consider fair

What is this psychology phenomenon called?

yfw

6 hours ago

Can you give an example?

simianwords

5 hours ago

What’s wrong with grokipedia? I find it fair and reasonable. And it’s always nice to have a competitor because although Wikipedia is okay, it’s not sustainable to have it as a monopoly.

I like that OpenAI usds grokipedia and predict that Grokipedia will become more common and normal.

Imustaskforhelp

39 minutes ago

Ah yes Wikipedia, a non profit's a monopoly which generally has no bias and has become one of the best places even after the internet keeps on getting enshittified

Let's replace this with grokipedia whose grok generated some rather obscene and disgusting material on twitter as the main source instead of wikipedia.

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