New YC homepage

143 pointsposted 7 hours ago
by sarreph

64 Comments

sailfast

26 minutes ago

Not sure formidable founders getting whatever they want whatever the obstacle (sure market obstacles but what about laws, morality, etc) is a good thing to be honest.

Sometimes folks need to be stopped. Sometimes those walls are there for a reason.

And after IPO, maybe a founder should consider the good of the world instead of what you think you want next for yourself and just bashing down more walls.

But I dunno… I’m just a rando.

PStamatiou

3 hours ago

Really love the new site and how it highlights founders so well.

Only minor tweak I'd make is for the desktop viewport size - make it so you can also click the company names instead of needing to precisely scroll for the images to show up for that company. With notched mouse wheels it's all too easy to skip one even with a regular scroll. Or increase the scroll distance.

Also might suggest using a gradient mask to fade out the company logos as you scroll the primary text block up. Some of them get very close to the text and the one-by-one removal feels a tad distracting.

And really minor but kept finding myself trying to click the photos to see things larger. Would be nice if they could come up in a media viewer with a small caption, and let me arrow key or swipe through.

amelius

2 hours ago

Looks cool, though I have to be honest that I'm not a big fan of showing only the survivor stories.

raleighm

an hour ago

I had the same reaction. Also the new vibe feels less like “make something people want” and more like “join the pantheon.”

jonahx

35 minutes ago

My first thought was I'd love to see everything, from the unicorns to the mid-level success to the failures, all laid out in one big infographic.

trebligdivad

3 hours ago

Impressive collection of embarrassingly young founder pictures :-)

nine_k

2 hours ago

A good remedy against lookism :)

skeptrune

3 hours ago

I love that the founders are so prominently featured on this new version.

cjflog

an hour ago

Interesting pattern to see how many IPO photos on the right are missing an original founder or two.

neilv

an hour ago

Whilst gaining better fashion and haircuts.

jonshariat

39 minutes ago

Many of them look like they joined/lead a cult.

archeantus

an hour ago

What stood out to me more than how impressive the carousel of companies was, was the order of them. Wild that they have OpenAI and Stripe second and third to Airbnb.

tjr

an hour ago

Did it change? I see OpenAI listed first.

PyWoody

an hour ago

I think I was on HN for at least three years before I realized they even had a homepage. I might check this one out in the next couple of years.

conductr

an hour ago

The most well funded forum ever

0xferruccio

3 hours ago

some of the design interactions are really polished. the section written with the quotes from founders is really cool. the hover effect with the before and after of the YC partners is a great touch too!

dewey

an hour ago

The "Be in the room with …" image hover effects triggering the video are neat.

asadm

30 minutes ago

the "Be in the room with..." hover videos are cool but seem AI-generated.

pelagicAustral

2 hours ago

Crazy talented people. Crazy good products. I really like the redesign, I am a bit old now, but I can see how inspiring it might be for people coming into tech.

elAhmo

an hour ago

Love the emphasis on people behind successful companies and humble beginnings that all of them have!

Computer0

11 minutes ago

It's a nice website. I still despise ycombinator. They make a hell of a forum though!

NetOpWibby

an hour ago

This looks good. Almost makes me want to apply...but nah. Maybe, idk.

TheCoreh

4 hours ago

Looks good.

A minor piece of feedback, though: might be just me, not sure if anyone else has this pavlovian conditioning, but seeing the black banner/bar on top with the YC logo/color below and HN background color immediately makes me think someone passed away.

wizzwizz4

4 hours ago

I think it's fine. If it were a black bar and then an orange bar, that would be a different matter.

0003

2 hours ago

Turning a builder into a formidable founder, which via the PG quote is someone who seems they will always get what they want is in its self a death. A builder... a truth-seeking creator dies. Devoured by someone who gets what they want, a superego. There should be a black bar at the top.

/s

Shout out to the risk takers.

NKosmatos

3 hours ago

Impressive! Seeing all the before and after photos is a nice touch. With regards to the actual web page, white text on light background (partners part) makes it nice easily readable.

magicmicah85

2 hours ago

There's a homepage? Kidding aside, it looks like a good landing page highlighting the top success stories and the purpose of YC.

Mc_Big_G

an hour ago

“A formidable founder is one who seems like they’ll get what they want, regardless of whatever obstacles are in the way.”

Yeah, especially laws and regulations.

hajrice

3 hours ago

Visiting HN brings me back when to when I just started my career as a entrepreneur, I look forward to the nostalgic design it has. Have been familiar w/ YC's & HN design since 2008.

New YC page looks great – but it just doesn't feel "yc" to me.

hungryhobbit

3 hours ago

Redo the co-founder match sub-site next!

That thing hasn't been updated in years, and could really use some love. If they don't want to do it themselves, just open source the sub-site and I'm sure a bunch of tech founders will happily do it for them (if only to be able to say they contributed to YC itself).

ansk

an hour ago

The implication that OpenAI is a YC company in the same sense as the other listed companies is somewhere between misleading and dishonest. Even more distasteful to show founding teams for all the others, then just Sam for OpenAI.

raldi

2 hours ago

The “YC/Now” timer starts (and sometimes flips) before the image actually loads.

perfmode

3 hours ago

There’s something that bothers me about reducing achievement to stock price and exit valuations. Yet, it is sobering to witness the machinery laid bare.

The whole aesthetic of startup success—those triumphant IPO bell-ringing moments—celebrates money, not wisdom or authentic progress. I’m aware this is the dominant framework, but that doesn’t make it feel less hollow. Welcome to Heartbreak.

ryandrake

2 hours ago

> The whole aesthetic of startup success—those triumphant IPO bell-ringing moments—celebrates money, not wisdom or authentic progress.

Didn't see anything about ethics either, which, again, is not necessarily what a VC firm is about. It's actually kind of refreshing--the website clearly conveys YC's focus: It's about being "formidable" and "intensive work" and "urgency" and "fast." The editing on this site is impressive. They have boiled away everything down to the core of what the firm believes in, and it's "work hard make lots of money fast". Not something I'd personally be interested in being part of, but the site's wording is remarkable in its honesty, and I clearly know after reading it that the YC experience would not be my cup of tea!

nine_k

3 hours ago

Wisdom and authentic progress are hard to measure. They are also not the goals enterprises pursue. Enterprises go for the money, but the money is normally paid by satisfied customers; this side effect is what makes enterprises viable and useful. (In case of VC money, customers even don't have to pay for sustainably for some time.)

An IPO or a large acquisition is like a graduation event for school students. A diploma or a SAT certificate also do not certify wisdom, or even progress. They certify a certain degree of success, and a transition into "adult life". Or think about this as of an orbital insertion event for a spacecraft. Not an end goal, but a precondition for a serious progress.

If you seek wisdom, a VC firm like YCombinator is likely not the most appropriate tool for your quest. (An attempt to found a business may bring some wisdom, as usual, at a cost.)

autoexec

3 hours ago

Doesn't seem to display anything with JS disabled so it's a fail in my book, but I accept that I'll be in the minority here.

robertwpearce

25 minutes ago

Same! uBlock on Firefox lists ~280 scripts blocked

autoexec

13 minutes ago

Yeah, I took a glance at the source and thought the list of scripts was insane too. Even if all of that code is needed (and I doubt it is) combining them a bit would save a whole lot of requests. It's almost like every function got its own file.

foresto

3 hours ago

Displays a blank page unless scripts are allowed. :(

dang

3 hours ago

Thanks - someone else reported this too (as a security issue for some reason!) and I've passed it on.

ripped_britches

3 hours ago

I mean trying to insinuate oai is a yc company is just shady right?

I get that the subtext isn’t dishonest, but cmon, you know what you’re doing

tptacek

3 hours ago

They were an early funder. Seems p. reasonable for a VC firm to point that out.

nailer

2 hours ago

Were OpenAI in a batch though? If not, I think maybe OpenAI deserves a mention but after companies that were actually in a batch.

Typography looks great though, animations are smooth, /formidable founder' is original and it's nice seeing Jared Friedman - he was super friendly and acted as a company champion when I applied in 2016.

tptacek

an hour ago

I don't think a "fair" ranking of companies with a nexus to YC is really the goal of the page. YC invested in OpenAI; their logo goes on the page. Also, hard to argue that the founders of OpenAI lacked YC credentials. :)

bflesch

2 hours ago

It's fine they include openai, they can be very proud of sam. What I found a bit weird is that the reddit founder picture shows only two people. History is written by the winners I guess.

ls-a

3 hours ago

I found the switch of focus from startups/businesses to founders/CEOs particularly strange. Looks like a political campaign to me.

alephnerd

3 hours ago

YC has always been founder first.

Back when they started in the 2000s, most traditional VCs didn't recognize that high impact individuals can easily pivot or define product categories, and only concentrated on financial engineering (DCF go brrrrrr).

YC often also mentors founders on pivots (I'd say at least a third of all startups that make it to demo day were mentored into some sort of a pivot).

YC also needs to pivot it's marketing to compete with a16z Speedrun and PeakXV Surge, both of which really center on the founder first approach or Operators-turned-Angels - which I assume this marketing shift is about.

ls-a

3 hours ago

> YC often also mentors founders on pivots

Interesting. I once talked to an investor (not YC) and they asked me what I would do if the product failed. I said one thing I can do is pivot. And they literally responded with "we don't invest in founders who think about pivoting"

> YC also needs to pivot it's marketing to compete with a16z Speedrun and PeakXV Surge

Maybe. A write up about the new design would be cool I think

> YC has always been founder first.

Internally yes there is a "founder community". But publicly I would argue it was product-first.

throwaway89201

3 hours ago

> YC often also mentors founders on pivots

It doesn't seem unlikely to me that YC coined or at least popularized 'the pivot' in the context of changing business / startup directions. The first mention of using the word in that sense is in this comment [1] which explicitly mentions the usage by YC, while it only gets used when talking about pivot tables or more traditional uses of the word before that.

Edit: The "Lean Startup" blog series [2], which was quite influential, mentions 'the pivot' a little earlier than the post above, and really seems to coin it, so I guess that's the source (edit again: wrong :D).

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=806601

[2] https://www.startuplessonslearned.com/2009/06/pivot-dont-jum...

dang

3 hours ago

That's a fun question! 806601 was from Sept 2009. I found 3 earlier cases of 'pivot' in the startup sense:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=699611 (July 2009)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=676514 (June 2009)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=562739 (April 2009)

All 3 of those posts were by YC founders, so the term was obviously in circulation by then. The last of them includes a (broken) likn to this article: https://web.archive.org/web/20090703130211/https://redeye.fi....

Edit: that one was discussed here, but the comments didn't say the p-word:

Yogi Berra wisdom for startups - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=537331 - March 2009 (9 comments)

alephnerd

2 hours ago

> I said one thing I can do is pivot. And they literally responded with "we don't invest in founders who think about pivoting"

I'd say it depends on a VC's investment thesis as well as the stage your startup is at.

For the former, some wouldn't like your answer because it implies a lack of conviction (why should I invest in something the founder doesn't trust). Others wouldn't because it adds a degree of uncertainty (if this B2C reels company pivots into MLOps tooling how can I do due dilligence on my investment).

For the latter, seed/pre-seed that is open to pivoting isn't necessarily a negative flag because they are barely generating revenue as is and are trying to find PMF, but a Series B startup suddenly taking about a pivot might imply they aren't doing so hot.

> A write up about the new design would be cool I think

We ain't the LPs. We don't deserve an answer.

bflesch

2 hours ago

> YC also needs to pivot it's marketing

Depends who you're marketing to. Do they need to follow what others did or should they stay in their own niche? Because I'm not hanging out on a16z forum because they make fancy marketing materials, I'm one of the thousands of people who bought into the YC brand which was build over decades. Would be stupid to become one with the crowd of sleeky VCs.

As European I'm quite happy I didn't see YC involvement with the current administration, and if they stay a bit clear of the AI supergau I'm sure they'll be fine.

verdverm

3 hours ago

> YC also needs to pivot

It's been reported that the ratio of mentors to founders had become quite bad. Seems quality has gone down since they tried to scale something that doesn't scale

wahnfrieden

3 hours ago

YC is a political movement. Look at their leaders' activities and what they fund.

ls-a

3 hours ago

I'm pretty sure the designer used political campaigns as inspiration

bigyabai

2 hours ago

Gary Tan shows up in a photo at the bottom but nowhere by name. Gotta hand it to YC, whoever handles their PR needs a raise.

Klonoar

an hour ago

What...?

You can CTRL+F his name. He's right there.

sapphire42

an hour ago

YC updates their homepage to align with the design language of the companies they fund: 2020s-era hypermodern slop. It's smooth, modern, and going to rip you off.

smnplk

an hour ago

didnt know they had a website. Do lobsters have a website too ?