When Music Stopped Mattering

2 pointsposted 6 hours ago
by unicorn_cowboy

6 Comments

zkmon

6 hours ago

The few times when I heard music in a non-business context was groups of women farm workers in Indian villages singing a folk-song as a group, that provides the rhythm required for the farm work. Those tunes used to float in waves modulated by the hot winds blowing over the crops.

Also, maybe solo singing by shepherd boys and cow-herders, while roaming vast grass lands in hot summer. There were some great singers who wrote fantastic lyrics that go for hours with hardly any instrumental music. I knew they did it for their own pleasure.

JohnFen

6 hours ago

I disagree with the characterization that "music stopped mattering". Maybe it stopped mattering so much online or if all you're looking at is mass-market commercialization, but in general? It looks as alive and important as ever from where I sit.

RiverCrochet

5 hours ago

IMHO its the old ways music was brought to people--the mass-market ways--that stopped mattering, such as radio, television, music videos.

The U.S. doesn't have enough of a cohesive entertainment culture anymore to really have even a weak notion of national pop music. The Internet keeps everyone in their bubbles. So if you're looking for U.S. Top 40, it's gone-that's what no one cares about except people who want to write articles about music.

It's the sunset of a long process of fragmentation in pop that's at least been there since the rock-vs-disco in the 70s.

I wouldn't say it's bad unless you don't use YouTube and/or Bandcamp. That's where I find most of my new stuff these days.

JohnFen

4 hours ago

> So if you're looking for U.S. Top 40, it's gone-that's what no one cares about except people who want to write articles about music.

Ahh, that makes sense. I'm in the "don't care about Top 40" camp. I've never cared about that, even when it was still culturally relevant, and never listened to music much on the radio.

> I wouldn't say it's bad unless you don't use YouTube and/or Bandcamp.

I don't use YouTube for music. I buy music from Bandcamp, but don't use it for discovery. I do music discovery the same way I've done it my whole life: recommendations from friends who share my tastes, searching out works by the other people who contributed to an album (not just the musicians), and going to live musical performances.

I guess that fully explains why the music scene doesn't really look any less vibrant to me now than it used to.

10729287

6 hours ago

I come from punkrock and buying cheap compilations released by labels like it was the norm back in the days (Get Punk O Rama 2 by Epitaph records now if you’re curious) really made the music lover I am today, spinning them like crazy because that was almost the only music I had access to.

I dreamt so much about unlimited streaming access back then. 30 years later I realize it was a chimera that broke a lot of my will to dig into music and spend time on more rewarding albums. I’m just sick of the non stop novelty.

MP3 era was the best for this. Because a lot of music was then easy to get, and communities on the Internet were great. Streaming is just mass consumption, or I just don’t have the discipline to restrain.

Well, I’m now back to my very own library, supporting bands by buying their stuff on bandcamp or spending time on random old records I slept too much time on.

chrisjj

6 hours ago

Some good thoughts undermined by some nonsense thinking e.g.

when someone bought a CD in 1995, the artist earned roughly $2 from that single sale after label splits. Today, to earn that same $2, around 50 people need to stream the entire album front-to-back.

No. To earn that same $2, the guy who played the CD 50 times would today need to stream it... 50 times.