crazygringo
16 days ago
I just want to say this isn't just amazing -- it's my new favorite map of NYC.
It's genuinely astonishing how much clearer this is than a traditional satellite map -- how it has just the right amount of complexity. I'm looking at areas I've spent a lot of time in, and getting an even better conceptual understanding of the physical layout than I've ever been able to get from satellite (technically airplane) images. This hits the perfect "sweet spot" of detail with clear "cartoon" coloring.
I see a lot of criticism here that this isn't "pixel art", so maybe there's some better term to use. I don't know what to call this precise style -- it's almost pixel art without the pixels? -- but I love it. Serious congratulations.
cannoneyed
16 days ago
Author here, and to reiterate another reply - all of the critique of "pixel art" is completely fair. Aesthetically and philosophically, what AI does for "pixel art" is very off. And once you see the AI you can't really unsee it.
But I didn't want to call it a "SimCity" map, though that's really the vibe/inspiration I wanted to capture, because that implies a lot of other things, so I used the term "pixel art" even though I figured it might get a lot of (valid) pushback...
In general, labels and genres are really hard - "techno" to a deep head in Berlin is very different than "techno" to my cousins. This issue has always been fraught, because context and meaning and technique are all tangled up in these labels which are so important to some but so easily ignored by others. And those questions are even harder in the age of AI where the machine just gobbles up everything.
But regardless, it was a fun project! And to me at least it's better to just make cool ambitious things in good faith and understand that art by definition is meaningful and therefore makes people feel things from love to anger to disgust to fascination.
dark-star
15 days ago
just FYI, there are some very obvious inaccuracies (stitching artefacts?) in this map, especially noticeable e.g. on Roosevelt Island around Roosevelt Bridge, or naround Pier 17 next to Brooklyn Bridge
crazygringo
15 days ago
There's a strange error where half the Broadway Junction subway station just... disappears. And seems to be replaced with some generically hallucinated city blocks? But that's the thing with AI, the quality control at scale is tough. I'm just happy this seems to be about 99.9+% accurate.
ant6n
16 days ago
It’s almost like sim city (2000), but not quite. It night help if the overall mayo was fully square.
PetitPrince
15 days ago
More like Sim City 3000 methinks. Sim City is more pixel artsy / lower resolution, while 3000 have enough resolution to feel more like an illustration rather than a videogame.
asdfgeoff
14 days ago
Reminds me of Habbo Hotel
andra_nl
15 days ago
Will "Retro art" do?
archy_
15 days ago
Low-res cel shading would be a better descriptor. It lends itself to looking like pixel art when zoomed out, but cel shading when zoomed in.
echelon
15 days ago
No. Lean into "pixel art".
Hot take: "photo realistic" is just a style.
If it doesn't exist and wasn't taken with a camera, then "photo realistic" is just the name of the style.
Same with "pixel art", "water color", and everything else.
marcd35
15 days ago
pixel art 2.0
still respects what it is but clearly differentiates itself as something new
echelon
15 days ago
That'd be like calling photography "painting 2.0".
One day the majority of pixel art in the world, and indeed even photoreal photos, will be generated.
We'll call it pixel art even if the original motivation is gone.
noo_u
15 days ago
My scientific opinion is that you cooked. noice.
rob74
15 days ago
High-res pixel art? Maybe adding an extra zoom level so people can actually see the pixels as big fat squares would help? Of course purists would probably still not call it pixel art, but as you wrote, leaning more into the "pixel art" aspect would hurt the realistic representation.
Actually, if you only look at (midtown and uptown) Manhattan, is looks more "pixel art"-y because of the 90-degree street grid and most buildings being aligned with it. But the other boroughs don't lend themselves to this style so well. Of course, you could have forced all buildings to have angles in 45° steps, but that would have deviated from "ground truth" a lot.
tecleandor
15 days ago
Feels a bit like between cel shading and isometric pixel art...
karmasimida
15 days ago
TBH, the nano banana ones are closer to pixel art than Qwen Image ones. Much closer.
This looks like early 2000 2.5D art, like Diablo style.
bitneuker
15 days ago
Isn't this comment AI? The writing screams ChatGPT to me.
crazygringo
14 days ago
That's too funny. No, it really is me, but now that I re-read it I totally see how the kind of praise I reserve for maybe one thing on HN a year is the kind of praise that ChatGPT outputs all the time...
And hell, I even use three em-dashes! But maybe the fact that I typed them out using hyphens is the telltale sign this is actually human...
crazygringo
14 days ago
That's too funny. No, it really is me, but now that I re-read it I totally see how the kind of praise I reserve for maybe one thing on HN a year is the kind of praise that ChatGPT outputs all the time...
oxguy3
15 days ago
This comment isn't just amazing -- it's my new favorite comment on Hacker News.
TeMPOraL
15 days ago
I'm Commander Shephard and this is my new favorite comment on the Citadel^WHacker News.