I have a hard time to understand that. The woman just accelerated from 0mph to what, 4mph? The officer was aware of the car. The car was taking a turn away from the officer.

That was no life threatening situation. If the officer had not shot, what would have happened? The woman would have left the scene while the officers already had the license plate information. So I am not sure what your take is here.

> ICE shot someone who wasn't complying with several orders to stop her vehicle, to open her door,

The first one ordered her to leave, the next one told her to get out of her vehicle and reached into her vehicle without a warrent or justification.

Neither had any legal grounds for doing so, at least according to a civil rights lawyer who defended MAGA people deplatformed during the Biden administration.

Traffic enforcement is not within ICE's remit, particularly in this case when wide angle footage with long time frames show traffic passing both cars that are across a single lane.

> Now hitting the gas pedal and hitting an agent with your big fat SUV:

Perhaps avoid the false hyperbole.

> It's basically the same story: the left using anything it can to create martyrs

The "martyrs" are being created by the incompentance and over reach of ICE.

I don’t understand why you’re bringing up Obama. Nobody is defending him, and I think you might be inferring some sort of tribalistic defensiveness without any evidence. I see that sort of thing a lot, and I’ve never understood it.

Please correct me if I misunderstood the point you were trying to make.

I'm pretty traditional conservative and I don't feel that our tax money should be funding child care directly like it does these days. I want to reduce the debt and taxes.

Looking at the "journalist", I really don't understand what people say he uncovered. He showed up with a bunch of people and expected to enter a non-public facility with children to investigate and when he was denied entry, made huge claims about how over half of the state's funding is going to illegal Immigrants. I saw zero proof of anything in their "reporting" nor did I see anything credible in their approach. I fully support investigative reporting, but there's a bar that needs to be meet to be considered a journalist and rage content creators do not meet that bar.

If you want to link to specific videos that you feel do meet this bar, I'm happy to watch them, but as of now, I do not believe their reporting one bit.

Well, it seemed to work well enough on you. Maybe try and think harder about your information sources. They seem to be lying to you, and you don't seem to be able to tell.

I'm way more concerned about my tax money going to Donald Trump and his family and cronies. Followed by it going to billionaires and corporations. You know things that are actually happening today. I'm not very concerned at all by fluffed up recycled true crime by d tier content creators that the administration has turned into propaganda and people like you are pushing at every opportunity.

> Obama deported 3 million immigrants with ICE while he is president

Obama did it the right way, didn't he? Obama's administration managed deportations effectively and humanely, prioritizing criminals and recent arrivals through programs like Secure Communities for over 3 million removals while upholding due process, minimizing community disruptions, and avoiding widespread violence or errors like wrong-country deportations.

> The woman who got shot thought she was on a movie set, tried to act cool and then attempted to run over an officer.

Citation needed. Absolutely wild to claim to know the thoughts of a dead woman. Do you speak for the dead also?

Shills keep bring up Obama deportations. Obama's administration primarily followed the law, observed due process and habeas corpus, didn't send people to concentration camps in other countries, and didn't shoot mother's in the head and then call them terrorists.

It should be clear why the response is so different, there's no need to act naive

> The woman who got shot thought she was on a movie set, tried to act cool and then attempted to run over an officer.

Your mind-reading abilities are malfunctioning. There's clear video evidence which disproves your claim. That raises serious questions about your good faith in this discussion.

> keeping the United States safe

From who exactly? Perhaps we could have a foreign country perform an operation to remove the people directing ICE to behave like an occupying force attempting to frighten US citizens into submission. That would help keep the country safe for democracy.

Do you think democracy in the US is worth preserving? Because it sure doesn't seem that way.

> For the other comment, you can check yourself if you don't believe in fraud.

This is a completely irrelevant distraction that just adds to the impression of bad faith from you.

Kamala as well.

I'm libertarian, not a fan of Hillary, and thought that comment was politically ham-fisted at the time. But at this point I think we can all agree that she was right.