Doesn't matter where they are produced, it matters where they are sold.

They are sold in the EU, they need to follow the laws for the market where they are sold. I can't go to the US, produce a death trap of a car, and sell it in the US because it goes against US laws; I could produce the same car in the US, not sell it in the US, and be fine if I find a market where I can export it to, it's stupid but not against the law.

US companies want to sell to Europeans, they could choose to not do business here and wouldn't face any repercussions if breaking EU law. Since they do like the money from a very rich bloc of countries they do business in the EU and need to follow its laws.

It's very very simple, I don't know why you are trying to complicate a rule (or worse, victimise companies) that exists anywhere in the world. If I want to sell something in the USA I need to follow USA's laws regarding that, if I don't then I can't do business there.

So what? You can also buy meat from outside the EU, but if you want it to be used inside the EU, it has to conform to EU standards.

Otherwise you are simply not allowed to sell it in the EU.

All hail our pizza-baking Internet overlords:

> The authority set the multi-million euro fine with the resolution now published based on one percent of Cloudflare's global annual revenue. It justifies this calculation with the company's cross-border structure: Since Cloudflare's infrastructure is globally oriented and enables the circumvention of local blocks, the sanction must also have a corresponding "deterrent effect" and go beyond the national framework.

https://www.heise.de/en/news/Cloudflare-record-fine-Italy-s-...

Looked them up and it's a good example. See also contemporary condemnation of the US justice system. https://www.ft.com/content/2699c7c4-9ea0-11dc-b4e4-0000779fd...

The only link that made them liable for US extradition was "wire fraud" relating to a message transmitted in the US. Exactly the sort of extraterritorial law that the US are complaining about when it happens to them.

The UK had 16 year old tits on page 3 of the national newspapers till 2004.

And so can you run local models which can generate far worse material.

And horny teens have always fantasist about celebrities, or that girl they have a crush one etc. And there always had been people people cutting physical images together to place the head of their obsession on some erotic magazine sourced body.

But like you saied it's creating a feed of all the people which have been sexualized against their will.

There is a huge difference between someone doing something in your mind (or room) and it staying there and it being posted international for billions of people to see (and download, and re-post, and cherry pick preferred pictures and then feed into AI model which will actually full undress people etc.)

and a huge company making money from not just sexualizing people against their will, but also putting creating a public feed about all the people they have sexualized against their will

and then the owner going out of their way to claim that that is all free speech they won't change anything and anyone who tries is fascist, communist, evil etc.

except that definitions of what free speech means vary largely between countries and huge parts of the world have definitions where stuff like "creating sexualized images of people against their will" (or systematic harassment, cyber mobbing, death threads, and a bunch of other things) are very clearly _not_ covered by free speech.

realistically speaking this is also AI output, i.e. not speech of a person (weather natural or legal/company), i.e. it's questionably if Grok posting generated images does even count as speech (in the US and many other countries)...

maybe much later they did

initially they outright said, there is no problem

and Musk went further saying it's free speech and implying if you try do anything against it you are fascist

and you could check the Grok "~feed" and get tons over tons of examples of them _not_ doing anything. And if that changed, then it did very recently. I mean the UK is not the only country where the topic of regulating X to to them failing to self regulate and outright intentionally ignoring local laws was opened up. And as much as Musk might say he don't care and it's implied that the US will retaliate against any country which enforces actions against X for not complying with their law when doing business in their country, it still is a huge headache for X (company) and it's not like people in the US are supper happy about that either.

They're quoting or paraphrasing a common online criticism of the UK, given by people who insist there's no possible way for a tweet to be unlawful.

When the pot calls the kettle black, as we say in the UK, it's fair to tell the pot about it's own soot residue.

I am a free speech absolutist

Oh sweet summer child. Answered below.

I thought I would garner these comments above and the down-votes :) So as requested.

Actually I see its 14 central banks that have this USD FX swap facility (but the BoE, ECB, and BoJ are essentially uncapped).

My sources:

1. I did some early work in a very early precursor of this with Reuters

2. The Bank of International Settlements (BIS) https://www.bis.org/speeches/sp230324a.pdf

3. The Federal Reserve Banks (Richmond) https://www.richmondfed.org/publications/research/econ_focus...

How it works is:

The BoE needs USD, say $10 billion, so it SIMULTANEOUS conjures out of absolute thin air a single ledger entry:

- GBP ₤ 7,437,400,000 - liability to US FED

- USD $10,000,000,000 - asset to UK BoE

It then:

- lends the $10 billion to whoever needs it in the UK

- later (so not immediately*) lets the Fed know it has a new GBP asset.

It later promises to pay it all back. If it can.

But, be very clear, 14 central banks, can and do conjure up USD out of thin air. They call it something boring ("FX swaps").

The modern fiat monetary system is weird. (And I want to be a bank).

But to my earlier point - this print on demand, let us know later facility is only needed because of the demand for USD.

Probably Grok AI :-)

It doesn't make much difference in terms of the actual gas. It's an alternative transportation mechanism for what's basically the same sort of stuff.

The UK does produce its own LNG though - I watch the tankers sailing past my house!

And payment clearing, incidentally. Bank interlending (including BoE) in the UK is almost entirely built on US systems.

Time for some heat pump subsidies I guess! Haha