Fizz43
a month ago
Why is the American tech culture so comically evil. Even if this does boost productivity surely we would think that offering workers addictive substances like nicotine pouches is unacceptable behavior. I cant imagine any of the places I've worked at thinking this was an acceptable idea let alone a good idea.
Maybe im just out of touch.
iancmceachern
a month ago
I worked at one, with famous folks, where the CEO took Nicotine and Caffeine pills, had them in the cabinet. When I mentioned that nicotine was bad for you, he was surprised.
He had 2 PHDs
peterfirefly
a month ago
Nicotine itself seems to be remarkably benign. Smoking is bad, snuff is bad.
iancmceachern
a month ago
Except for the cardiovascular damage.
Lapsa
a month ago
source please. afaik nicotine on itself is near negligibly harmful
treesknees
a month ago
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11350241/
https://academic.oup.com/eurheartj/advance-article/doi/10.10...
Lapsa
a month ago
I still don't see it. bunch of word salad. writing "safer nicotine products" in quotation marks and emphasizing that they ain't safe as if nobody's noticing a straw man argument. from what I gathered - whole thing is based upon Swedish research that states death is 2 times more likely (!!!) AFTER the heart attack while explicitly stating: "No increased risk of MI incidence has been observed in previous studies". because funky data extrapolation. oh well - at least they ain't crying that nicotine is the cause of cancer...
treesknees
a month ago
You likely didn’t read the sources. If you are already convinced of your (incorrect) position and assumptions despite ample evidence, why ask for sources?
From the second link:
>In this policy statement, 12 evidence-based key messages that highlight the CV [cardio vascular] toxicity of nicotine are presented, irrespective of delivery system.
So it doesn’t matter if it’s smoking, patches, gum, pouches, whatever. Nicotine is addictive and harmful. Perhaps not as harmful when it’s not combined with tobacco and all the other substances that come with cigarettes, but it’s not benign or harmless.
Lapsa
a month ago
you likely didn't read that I did read sources and sources sources are based upon likely likely
hulitu
a month ago
> When I mentioned that nicotine was bad for you, he was surprised.
You should have give him radium. /s
> He had 2 PHDs
A lot of politicians have a doctoral degree. It doesn't help.
salawat
a month ago
The love of money is the root of all evil. The tech industry is obsessed with tapping and creating new value flows to intermediate. It should be fairly obvious.