President Trump Announces New Trump Class Battleship

16 pointsposted 13 hours ago
by duxup

15 Comments

bfrog

10 hours ago

The Russia Ukraine war has shown big metal objects are liabilities in the cheap plentiful drone war of the future.

poemxo

7 hours ago

They probably are, but the Ukraine war has not shown that. The only large ship lost by either side was a Russian ship, the Moskva, which was sunk by a Neptune anti-ship missile. Other smaller craft were sunk by naval drones, not necessarily cheap.

bell-cot

5 hours ago

The sinking of the Moskva is better understood as a WWII-era lesson - if a warship has lots of munitions up top, unprotected by armor, then all an enemy needs to do is set the first few of those off. Even with an elite crew and ship full of damage control equipment, the ship may end up not worth repairing.

Example: Two 550 lbs. bombs came very close to sinking the USS Franklin - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Franklin_(CV-13)#19_March_... The Franklin was about 3 times the size of the Moskva.

Amezarak

3 hours ago

> In a recent attack, the destroyer USS Spruance was “in a fight where they shot down three anti-ship ballistic missiles, three anti-ship cruise missiles and seven one-way (aerial drones) that were coming towards” them, said McLane, who didn’t specify when Spruance was attacked.

> On Nov. 11, Spruance and the destroyer USS Stockdale came under Houthi fire, fending off at least eight drones and eight missiles while transiting the Bab el Mandeb, a strait that connects the Red Sea to the Gulf of Aden.

https://www.stripes.com/branches/navy/2025-01-16/houthis-nav...

dzhiurgis

9 hours ago

How come this doesn’t work on Israel?

xarope

12 hours ago

I thought the BB class was no longer relevant in today's modern, missile and drone oriented naval battle fields?

BugsJustFindMe

12 hours ago

Yes but you have to account for the barely-functioning melted brain factor. Reality just can't compete when an old man goes "pew pew! zoom!"

Amezarak

3 hours ago

If you mean in terms of armament, this ship would have more missiles than any other class in the US fleet by a wide margin.

If you mean as a threat, the USN has ships sitting in the Red Sea as the Houthis and Iranians and whoever else sends off drones and missiles and they've all been fine.

bell-cot

6 hours ago

Yes-ish. In a serious fight against a peer-ish level adversary, the RoI on such a ship looks very dubious.

But short of that, a huge warship can have great prestige & intimidation value - assuming that it is competently designed, and built, and outfitted, and operated. Naval history is swarming with only-on-paper designs for big warships. And a fair number of real-steel warships which were cripples, glass cannons, or sitting ducks because of incompetence somewhere in that chain.

(Also, the USN is referring to it as a BBG, not BB - https://www.navy.mil/Press-Office/Press-Releases/display-pre... )

euroderf

12 hours ago

Rename it the Coup d'État class.

bell-cot

13 hours ago

Brings to mind Swedish King Gustavus Adolphus the Great's pride-and-joy warship Vasa.

And Germany's Wunderwaffe.

arthurcolle

12 hours ago

check out My Tank Is Fight! if you haven't

so many weird weapons developed over the years

alexnewman

12 hours ago

At first glance this seems crazy. But what a battleship with a gun so powerful, that it can shoot down everything. Having a nuclear powered vessel that can shoot a railgun and laser might be battleship in size

BugsJustFindMe

11 hours ago

A new surface vehicle for naval warfare is absolutely bonkers in the modern era. Even in the littoral space where notionally you don't have the depth for a sub-surface launcher, the LCS project was a complete bust. For anything in deep water, a submarine platform is so much more useful for projecting force and not a sitting duck.