Kohler Can Access Data from Toilet Camera It Describes as "End-to-End Encrypted"

10 pointsposted 12 hours ago
by BCM43

8 Comments

ycombinatrix

10 hours ago

>emails exchanged with Kohler’s privacy contact clarified that the other “end” that can decrypt the data is Kohler themselves

this is just embarrassing

georgefrowny

2 hours ago

Paying $600 plus a subscription for a poo camera is a bit embarrassing in itself.

> promising to track and provide insights on gut health, hydration, and more.

While I'm sure this theoretically could be 100% device side and handled only in encrypted format on the servers, that would be a gigantic pain in the arse (heh). At least, on-device inference is going to be a bit crap (heh) for some time. Since anyone gullible enough to think this was a good buy is probably up to their neck in 419 scams already, telling them "nah yeah it's E2EE, it's fine bro trust us" should cover it.

People who think this though probably aren't numerous and aren't going to be customers anyway (but I'm sure AI Rate My Dump is or will be a YC thing eventually).

stevenalowe

9 hours ago

I hope there’s no back door

bigyabai

8 hours ago

"E2EE" == "There's no way you'd trust us with this shit in plaintext"