I have much easier relationship with other son's peers than him. And I love him to no end and we do lots of hugs and are generally close.

But your own kids have seemingly this special superpower to get you pissed off to extreme levels (both for men and women) that no other situation in adult life can ever come close to. We as adults learnt the easy or hard way some form of basic empathy required when communicating with others, while kids lack it. Like doing 20x the same thing that pisses you off while ignoring your kind calm words - where else do you experience it, in your face, with big grin on top of that?

I've see it many times - people who are otherwise calm and relaxed get turned to 11 in seconds by their offsprings doing something stupid, arrogant or dangerous. Bonus points if its any form of unprovoked aggression towards other kids, especially younger/weaker.

Most of the world outside of North America is still this way.

> Marvel

One of my most crank opinions is that superhero stuff is (a) for kids, (b) inherently a bit fascist even if you make it textually anti-fascist, and (c) ultimately like popcorn, something that should be only a small part of a more varied diet.

Now, that's not a terribly strong opinion, and I know it'll make a lot of people mad, but I have personally got fed up with the oversupply of superhero stuff and believe that there should be more movies that mixed-gender adult audiences would like. Maybe find a way of doing an action-romcom that men will like. Characters that have human level ability and must find human level solutions. Probably the problem is that audience has now fragmented, moving the genders further apart.

> It is difficult to get society to accept that maybe it's time to balance the constant public and media validation of women with some public and media validation of men.

But its up to men to do the work. Women needed decades and decades to figure out what it meant to be a women and how to get what they wanted. They took the time and effort to organise, resulting in suffragettes and women's clubs and feminism and all that. Men could so far skip this all and just coast by on being the default. And now we're stuck with the situation that there are barely any male role models (except incredibly vile and toxic ones like Tate and Peterson), and trying to figure out what it means to be a man in a world that is rapidly changing, where men no longer can just be the breadwinner.

Not only that, but women are also demanding more from men (more emotional maturity, more support with chores and child raising, having a fully developed personality). And too many men seem either incapable or unwilling to change, preferring to lash out against 'woke' and voting for extreme rightwing politics that aims to put women back in the kitchen.

Yeah “society” had millennia of that. It’s quite telling that perhaps less than a decade of taking women seriously led to a a vitriol filled backlash full of Tates, Trumps and the manosphere.

It’s also quite telling that your main complaint is Disney superhero movies. It’s difficult to think of something more juvenile and unimportant.

My son wants to be female because every super hero that's interesting to him, it's female (he is 4). We learned to coast with this, but I did complain about the lack of cool male characters for young kids: the female ones seems to be better curated and more abundant

So we can all be schooled in the important manly things such as the '6 Card Games Every Many Should Know' or 'The Dale Carnegie That Will Instantly Improve Your Relationships'?

I've been reading Kate and Bret for decades (!) now.

Amazing site and filled with great male content.

But, umm, anyone know of any other good male-centric sites out there?

All I got is Esquire.com, and it's clearly not the same kinda thing.

Also, by "society" often people mean "twitter", which is hardly an organic cross section of public opinion.

Well we have data showing that people have fewer close friends, men in particular, than in decades past. This used to be what the loneliness epidemic referred to, but somehow it got turned in to being about dating.

I mean, I’m lonely and I’m married. Middle age is a tough time for friendships.

I was talking about friendships, not dating.

In fairness, a single act of abuse can wreck someone's mental health for their whole life as well. It's a difficult problem that requires lots of human effort.

> You don't understand much if you think that to fight the lack of mentors for men, you have to put down women. It's completely orthogonal.

Knee-jerk much? How on earth did you get "put down women" from what I wrote?

> People in power want you to have this "I don't have what I want because this other minority takes it from me", but it's simply wrong, even though this argument seems to capture the mind of simple-minded people.

Where did you read that in the tiny little snippet I wrote?

Let me be clear, so that there is no misunderstanding -

1. Men dominate the bottom of almost every ranking. This is just another ranking.

Maybe before we try to fix this specific ranking, we should be asking ourselves why men are at the bottom in every ranking.

> You don't understand much if you think that to fight the lack of mentors for men, you have to put down women

The reverse of this has been what's been dominating for a decade. Anything pro-men (or even just neutral) can be accused of being anti-woman, which creates a chilling effect as female-dominated HR departments can make life very difficult for men looking to provide for their families.

> to fight the lack of mentors for men, you have to put down women

For sure you don't have to put women as a whole down. But society and media these days are generally dominated by the most toxic voices. Toxic feminism is a big issue, that's what we have to put down for this particular purpose.

yes i remember Contrapoins patreon only video about "mommy and daddy politics" where she says conservatives imagine the government as a patriarchal father figure

>the community tolerates and what it doesn't.

But it's not the community, is it? It's literally a couple of people that can flag and bury a post. One or two, not more than that needed.

downvoting is one thing. flagging is another.

the HN community wants to discuss this issue (37 points / 65 comments). One guy (234000 karma) doesn't.

This is not right and it's making HN a worse place.

$100,000 isn't even 'rich' nowdays, that's below middle class especially if we're talking about an actual family unit. I can guarantee that if this research further stratified things into $100-200k, and $200k+ you would see the results continue to improve as people cross the threshold into middle class.

This survey can be seen as comparing people in poverty level income vs everyone else.

https://www.themotte.org/

Tbh I do not know but I'm sick and tired of seeing these threads devolve in the most cringe way possible. Tech already has a bad reputation in this respect and HN really isn't helping. And reading some of the comments in this thread that assessment was spot on.