Iran president says capital move now a necessity as water crisis deepens

28 pointsposted 3 months ago
by DrierCycle

26 Comments

ares623

3 months ago

> country "no longer has a choice"

I bet it had a couple of choices before this point. The government made all those choices as they came. Now it's being made for them.

I feel sorry for the people of Tehran.

I wonder how soon every other place is due. Sooner or later the same choice will be made for all of us.

kronicum2025

3 months ago

tbh US made a choice for them long ago.

Sabinus

3 months ago

How long will US support for a previous government be responsible for conditions in the country?

conartist6

3 months ago

Wow. The future of living in a barren rock is getting here fast fast fast

spwa4

3 months ago

Just so we're clear: fresh water is shifting location ... when it comes to the total available, it's increasing. There are many more locations were humans can now live where they couldn't a century ago, not less.

The issue is not that we can't live anywhere. The earth is greener than before. The issue is that there are a small number of locations where humans can't live anymore, especially not without good water management. Obviously, people don't want to or can't leave, and some of the locations that didn't use to, but now really do require proper management have a LOT of people.

Teheran has more water than a century ago. But more does not mean infinite.

pabs3

3 months ago

The water cycle is also becoming more unstable and unpredictable.

conartist6

3 months ago

Source on this info?

spwa4

3 months ago

The entire working mechanism of climate change is increased water in the atmosphere. That's why it's getting warmer. CO2 and other gases only accelerate that process a little bit (but as we're at the end of the warming cycle, "a little bit" should be interpreted as accelerating warming by a little bit, if you count the number of years it brings warming forward, that's a lot. Probably a millennium, maybe more). Obviously it also makes things warmer and generally wetter, thereby making very large areas livable that weren't livable before.

The entire inside of India used to be desert. That desert did not just reduce in size, it split in three pieces and two of them shrunk to zero, and even the third is turning green. The Sahara too is less than half the size it used to be.

https://theweek.com/environment/sahara-desert-turning-green

Also, large regions closer to the poles are becoming warmer ... and that means livable.

And yes, elsewhere deserts are becoming worse, for instance in Spain.

It doesn't really matter though, as humans are not exactly short on space, and this means we'll need to move large populations in the next century.

more_corn

2 months ago

The news? You could search for things like “scientists show how climate change is leading to an increase in extreme weather”

lysace

3 months ago

To be clear: the cause here is decades of mismanagement.

renewiltord

3 months ago

Fully expect the grey men to say the same of us when they look at a cooked Earth: yes, to be clear, it was mismanagement

pabs3

3 months ago

On YouTube or Netflix, look up the Fresh Water episode of the Our Planet documentary series by David Attenborough, fresh water is disappearing all over the place due to our actions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Planet https://www.ourplanet.com/ https://www.ourplanet.com/en/explore/fresh-water/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2DU85qLfJQ

lysace

2 months ago

You didn't even bother to do the most basic amount of research on the specific situation before posting those links, did you?

I don't understand how you think what is entially spam will bolster your cause.

It's just plain rude. But somehow it's common, even with normally intelligent people like you. Do think a few extra steps, next time, please.

mingus88

3 months ago

Have you seen the general state of … well, everything?

stpedgwdgfhgdd

3 months ago

And why?

Climate change (no rain) but especially bad water mgt.

dogma1138

3 months ago

Nuclear program, ballistic missile program, drones, establishing and supporting multiple proxies in the region.

For a fraction of what they spent on that they could’ve have desalination plants in the Caspian Sea and a water way capable of providing water to their capital.

user

3 months ago

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kotaKat

3 months ago

Yeah, there's something about allocating all of your water to those pesky Shahed drone factories for Russia instead of your civilian needs.

tamimio

3 months ago

So they can’t make a water pipeline from the gulf because it’s costly, but moving a whole capital is not?! It seems there are other motivations.

dogma1138

3 months ago

There are, they want a more secure capital from which they’ll be able to continue operating if a civil war breaks out.

mingus88

3 months ago

Moving a capital is bureaucratic. Setting up new offices does sound a lot cheaper than engineering a new water pipeline for millions of people across 300 miles.

lazide

3 months ago

The people move still needs to happen assuming those people still need water?

coffeebeqn

3 months ago

Land subsiding by 30cm per day? That sounds pretty intense. Your whole door would be underground in a few days

jadamson

3 months ago

Fairly sure that's a typo, or he misspoke, given the sentence immediately before says "per year".

imtringued

3 months ago

Not to mention the permanent destruction of your drained acquifers, which means you can't go back even if you wanted to, because that's what's causing the sinking in the first place.

Havoc

3 months ago

Sounds like the moment to act was six months ago