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by dluan

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11 Comments

user

6 hours ago

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user

6 hours ago

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znpy

6 hours ago

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techblueberry

6 hours ago

It’s a long blog article, so I couldn’t get to all of it, but did they disagree about a technical decision for rails? What was the core of the disagreement?

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF

5 hours ago

The author is trans and DHH wrote words in defense of a comedian who advocated for anti-trans violence.

BoredPositron

6 hours ago

It's easier for people to dehumanize people that tend to dehumanize people on a regular basis themselves. Not that it's something you should do but it's not as "oh the humanity" as your comment implies...

znpy

5 hours ago

So they aren’t any better, is that what you’re saying?

seattle_spring

3 hours ago

So you disagree with the concept of "the paradox of tolerance"?

mattmcknight

an hour ago

One person wants a list of their political enemies banned from software conferences, one of them doesn't want them banned. Which one is tolerant? The only intolerance and exclusion I see is from those requesting that specific people with whom they have political disagreement be banned.

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF

27 minutes ago

If one takes the narrow scope of openly "wants political enemies banned from software conferences" as the only way one can be intolerant, this actually makes sense. Doesn't it seem obvious to you, though, that there are other ways to be intolerant?

For example, take this author's beef:

> Around the same time this Rubygems drama was unfolding, David published a post [exploring his confusion and fear](https://web.archive.org/web/20250915074221/https://world.hey...) of the diverse ethnic makeup of the city of London, in the United Kingdom.

In that blog post, DHH included this paragraph:

> Most recently, five officers(!) came to arrest comedian Graham Linehan for illicit tweets. When much of the media reports a story like this, it's often without citing the specific words in question, such that the reader might imagine something far worse than what was actually said. So you should actually [read the three tweets](https://web.archive.org/web/20250915093439/https://grahamlin...) that landed Linehan in jail, and earned him a legal restraining order against using X. It's grotesque.

Cherry-picking the tweet that seems most unreasonable:

> If a trans-identified male is in a female-only space, he is committing a violent, abusive act. Make a scene, call the cops and if all else fails, punch him in the balls.

The author takes this to mean:

> In other words, that if you see a trans woman minding her business you should go out of your way to harass her – and then physically assault her.

So, since you brought up the question, and given this additional context, maybe there's something more to think about: which one is tolerant? Do you think it is unreasonable for the author to dislike DHH to the point that they would refuse to go to a conference at which he is scheduled to speak?

It's unreasonable and seemingly dishonest for the OP to have used the phrase "don’t share their opinions". It's similarly unreasonable and dishonest to refer to him as a mere political enemy. That's obviously not where the disdain comes from. You wouldn't think you simply "don't share my opinion" and that I'm just a "political enemy" if I think you should be excluded from public spaces simply for being different from me. You'd probably think I'm being intolerant. And there would be no shortage of folk coming out of the woodwork saying that actually you're being intolerant for not tolerating my opinion (that you don't belong for being different).

BoredPositron

3 hours ago

It's a shit throwing contest but as observers we can all admit that both sides throw it.