Israel dumps millions into geo targeting evangelicals in churches and ChatGPT

45 pointsposted 14 hours ago
by cramsession
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21 Comments

samrus

13 hours ago

The interesting thing here is that this is a concrete example of how you cant really trust the impression you get from your information feed. Its tampered with by corporations/governments who have an agenda.

The attention economy has been hijacked to manipulate people

Eddy_Viscosity2

3 hours ago

> The attention economy has been hijacked to manipulate people

This statement seems to imply that the attention economy and manipulation are somehow separate things. The attention economy IS people manipulation.

cramsession

14 hours ago

> This includes the largest U.S. geofencing operation, mapping perimeters of major churches and Christian colleges in California, Arizona, Nevada, and Colorado during worship hours to identify 8 million churchgoers and 4 million students via commercial data for continued ad targeting.

mandeepj

13 hours ago

That’s America’s money under a curtain!!

unangst

14 hours ago

"Search and Language Operation" to influence Google search results and generative AI responses from ChatGPT and Claude, representing the first documented state attempt to shape chatbot framing on Israel-Palestine issues.“

AniseAbyss

14 hours ago

The support of Israel relies on two things: the Holocaust and the old Testament.

raw_anon_1111

13 hours ago

Actually it’s the New Testament. Evangelicals believe that if Isreal doesn’t exist, Jesus won’t have a place to come back to when the rapture happens.

rsyring

13 hours ago

That's an absurdly blanket statement to make about what evangelicals believe. Some may believe that, but there is an incredibly wide spectrum of beliefs even amongst evangelicals about end times events and the role Israel plays.

raw_anon_1111

13 hours ago

I am glad to hear that some evangelicals have much more reasonable beliefs about the end times and Jesus born of virgin, died and rose three days later is coming back… (note sarcasm).

yndoendo

13 hours ago

I just finished _Culture In Nazi Germany_ by Michael H. Kater. [0]

Near the end it goes into percentages of which counties Jews moved to and why during their immigration. A good portion of the UK was antisemitic, along with a number of other countries, and didn't want them moving to their country.

UK colonized part of Palestine at the time and pushed Jews to move there. Only the most devoted that wanted to be closer to their religious holy land went because the only work at the time was farming. Ones that wanted to maintain living off their crafts; acting, music, writing moved else where.

UK's antisemitic view actually help create Israel and push for the Zionist movement.

One of the most surprising aspects is that a number of Jewish immigrants actually supported fascism and told themself that it just was not implemented right. It wasn't until the 1960s when the views changed to fascism is bad.

Warning, the book is very dry and goes into detail of what happened to famous actors, writers, and musicians.

[0] https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300253375/culture-in-naz...

tguvot

11 hours ago

uk didn't colonize palestine. it had mandate from league of nations to manage it till 1948

uk didn't push jews to mandatory palestine. in fact, it always severely restricted jewish immigration. 1939 white paper limited Jewish immigration to 75,000 for five years. Jews were restricted from buying Arab land in all but 5% of the Mandate

yndoendo

2 hours ago

UK did colonize Palestine and rejected the indigenous populous. They didn't take over by direct conquer like others. [0]

1939 was during the War period not before. Immigrating out of German started in the early 1930s. Nazis were in power in the 1920s, not fully. It was around 1928 they started the Culture Wars against ideas and works they deemed Modern, like Jazz. As the book states, the UK was pushing for them to immigrate there instead of their main Island because of antisemitic views. [1] [2]

The author actually traveled and talked to number of celebrities that lived during that time period. Even asking the Nazi era actors if they thought their careers would of took off if fascism never took hold and removed their competition.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_that_have_ga...

[1] https://www.ourmigrationstory.org.uk/oms/jewish-refuge-and-t...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

andsoitis

13 hours ago

> The support of Israel relies on two things: the Holocaust and the old Testament.

Come on. Geopolitically, Israel is an important pillar.

The V-Dem Democracy indices ranked in 2024 Iraq, Israel, Mauritania and Tunisia as the Middle Eastern and North African countries with the highest democracy scores. The Economist Group's Democracy Index rated in the region Israel as the only "flawed democracy" and no country as "full democracy" for year 2023.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_in_the_Middle_East_a...

shermozle

12 hours ago

This "only democracy in the region" line gets trotted out, but most Palestinians don't get a vote in the government that controls their lives. So "democracy" in the sense that Apartheid South Africa was a democracy, only.

xenospn

11 hours ago

Are you referring to the West Bank or Gaza? Because they’re both not part of Israel. Palestinians in Israel absolutely vote and have their own representatives in government.

shermozle

7 hours ago

"Both not part of Israel" and yet the people who allegedly own it don't control it.

umanwizard

11 hours ago

If you arbitrarily define parts of the territory you control as not part of your territory, and its population as not your citizens (even though they are entirely subject to your jurisdiction), then you only get partial credit for being a “democracy”, at best.

If Israel were really committed to democratic ideals, they would either make all Palestinians equal citizens of the state (currently Israel, which would presumably be renamed “Palestine” the next day), or, more realistically, they would allow the Palestinian Territories to become an independent state, rather than keeping them permanently occupied and subject to Israeli military law.

umanwizard

13 hours ago

Does it matter? A country being allied with the US seems to have little to do with whether it's a democracy, see e.g. Taiwan and South Korea during the dictatorship period, or Saudi Arabia now.