ggm
8 hours ago
Charts into the future with an exponential curve. Right.
Look, I could have believed linear at least to some asymptote. And then you plot the exponential to the asymptote after the fact, because curves are nicer.
But at this point, exponential growth into the future that far out is 'busboy giving investment advice' exuberance.
Plot what % of GPP and PPP this represents, and then plot the overhang of debt, and the cycle time to a market correction, and tell me you still think an exponential growth story is going to happen "up and to the right" in this.
asplake
4 hours ago
And the headcount charts are “incremental”, i.e. first differences rather than absolute values – hardly like-for-like.
eru
7 hours ago
What do you mean by 'overhang of debt'?
Debt and equity are equally valid ways to finance projects. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modigliani%E2%80%93Miller_theo... for the spherical cow version, but this holds approximately under real world conditions, too.
In general, I share you skepticism and agree that exponential extrapolation should be done only very carefully at best.
mamonster
2 hours ago
Your link itself says that in presence of taxes and tax deductible interest payments, i.e every single jurisdiction you care about, your firm can be significantly better off with debt. Saying debt and equity are equally valid suggests that you should be fine with a 100% equity financed company, which is completely false.
eru
38 minutes ago
> Saying debt and equity are equally valid suggests that you should be fine with a 100% equity financed company, which is completely false.
I assume you mean 100% debt financed?
In any case, that's also mostly fine and happens in practice. As soon as that dips above 100%, conceptually your creditors turn into shareholders.
SturgeonsLaw
8 hours ago
"This time it's different"
jbm
8 hours ago
I dunno, people really are living in tent cities and Hondas in Canada. The gains were permanent.
anon291
8 hours ago
Linear growth is nonsensical. Growth is driven ultimately by consumption. Consumption is driven by population. The population either grows or declines in an exponential fashion. That's how this works.
darth_avocado
8 hours ago
Consumption is not driven by population alone, it’s driven by population with a spending power. And from what I’m seeing, that’s shrinking. The article talks about how tech companies are growing revenues with fewer and fewer employees. An important question to ask there is: is that a good thing?
ggm
7 hours ago
Of course linear growth is nonsensical. But if you are plotting into the future its a damn sight less nonsensical than exponential unless you have very strong foundations, and for the 1-2-3 year projection it's pretty much ok. Anyone who thinks they know trends 5+ years out is a loony.
And as I said, thats ignoring market cycles, the debt overhang in the economy, all kinds of problems.
jgord
8 hours ago
Basically true, but there are other potential sources of growth :
- using technology to unlock cheaper energy - using technology to automate boring manual labor - using technology to extend healthy lifespan
Given the demographics collapse and ageing population in most 'developed' countries, we need to look at these other ways of generating economic growth.
eru
7 hours ago
Have you looked at the history of the population of various cities, countries or even the globe recently?