Aisuru botnet shifts from DDoS to residential proxies

53 pointsposted 7 days ago
by feross

19 Comments

codedokode

2 minutes ago

Why there is no protocol that would allow a network to request blocking traffic from a subnet or network? For example, AS X doesn't want any traffic from Y, and all operators between X and Y block traffic from Y to X.

To motivate lazy network operators, this protocol should be linked with financial conditions: an operator who doesn't honor the request, gets significantly reduced payment for this month's traffic.

I see weak people whining about attacks for like 10 years, and nobody changes anything. It's easier to blame evil Russian hackers than fix their own broken poorly designed systems.

somehnguy

5 hours ago

In the last few months I've seen many advertisements for a device they call the "Super Box" - it's essentially an (Android based?) IPTV device with every channel imaginable. The people I know with them paid around $300 and there isn't a monthly fee.

I have a hunch they're trading free TV for becoming a residential proxy unknowingly. Would love to capture network traffic from one and see what's really going on.

The fact that people are willing to buy these super sketchy devices and plug them into their networks without a second thought is kinda scary.

lesuorac

an hour ago

Well didn't lookup Super Box but I assume it's less sketchy than you image.

It probably just pulls from something like https://github.com/iptv-org/iptv and so the provider of Super Box doesn't have to maintain pretty much anything or use any of their own bandwidth. So the $300 minus the cost of the hardware is the profit and they don't have real reoccurring costs.

somehnguy

36 minutes ago

I don't believe so. These boxes provide access to premium TV channels and live sports, not just public broadcasting.

sieep

5 days ago

Very fascinating. I saw multiple people predict that these ddos attacks were just advertisement for the Aisuru services.

How can regular users of Android, smart TV's, etc. identify these IoT devices that have been compromised?

zokier

an hour ago

realistically? not much regular joe can do.

advanced users can segregate all their iot crap into separate network which allows keeping an eye on what goes on in there. but you need to know what your normal safe baseline looks like to be able to identify something weird happening.

of course there is lot of fancy tools built around this topic too, stuff like zeek and suricata almost certainly could be used to identify possible compromises. especially in a separate iot network, which should have otherwise fairly regular traffic patterns. but realistically, idk if anyone has been very successful in implementing such detection.

hombre_fatal

5 hours ago

I guess the increased bandwidth should at least show up on the ISP bill since that's the only place anyone would notice.

But we're pretty far from having a system that isn't perfect for botnets and malicious proxies hiding on your network.

Kinda crazy how my ISP doesn't even show me my usage on the bill. But then again every time I call them for something, they try to convince me I need something more than the minimum plan, and they're BS depends on me not knowing which tier I need.

aPoCoMiLogin

4 days ago

recently had to research "residential proxy", and the number of websites that claim that they have millions of IPs on hand was very strange. then the fact that a lot of them work in the exact same way, and a lot of them accepted payment mostly in crypto was very strange. so now connecting the dots, makes sense now why these "residential proxy" websites looked and worked the same way

baobabKoodaa

5 hours ago

also note that all of them claim that their residential proxies are "ethically sourced" (unlikely their competitors, I guess?)

there's no such thing as an ethically sourced residential proxy.

dewey

an hour ago

> there's no such thing as an ethically sourced residential proxy.

There is, just like you giving your attention and cpu to watch free ad supported content on the internet. It's the same in apps that give users access for free in return for bandwidth, or free VPNs that allow you to share bandwidth. There's also ISP "residential" proxies where ISPs re-sell some of their address space to proxy providers.

Retr0id

3 hours ago

I've been thinking about building an actually-ethical residential proxy system, for censorship-evasion purposes.

The internet in a growing number of countries is censored, but different content categories are censored in each jurisdiction. Many sites and services also block known VPNs (i.e. non-residential IPs), so that doesn't work as a bypass in all cases.

I have trusted friends in other countries, so by mutual agreement we could set up wireguard links for each other to use (subject to agreed terms). It just needs some way to intelligently route traffic depending on which jurisdictions will allow which requests (i.e. "which is the lowest-latency link that will allow this request").

tuhgdetzhh

2 hours ago

> I've been thinking about building an actually-ethical residential proxy system, for censorship-evasion purposes.

That thing already exist and is called Tor Snowflake.

kruffalon

3 hours ago

And the concept of web of trust and signing parties just gets more and more valuable for each day!

navigate8310

2 hours ago

Their are services that allow users to share their bandwidth in return for some cents per GB, a way to passively earn income.

iamacyborg

5 hours ago

So not only are AI companies stealing content, they’re actively funding criminal organisations too. Wonderful

miki123211

3 hours ago

They're funding criminal organizations in the same way you're funding one if you get your hair cut at a hair salon which works as a front for money laundering.

That is, mostly unknowingly, perhaps suspecting what's going on, but politely trying to ignore it for their own convenience.

zerof1l

4 hours ago

> ... renting hundreds of thousands of infected Internet of Things (IoT) devices to proxy services...

And that's why I will never buy any IoT devices that require an internet connection to work. Only IoT devices in my house are those that connect to my own server and never see the light of the internet.

ainiriand

an hour ago

Your IoT is an Intranet of Things then, checks out!