I ended my relationship because AI told me to

12 pointsposted 16 hours ago
by tejitopia
(jetwilliams.com)

23 Comments

jalapenos

15 hours ago

Who would publicly admit this, and even publicly talk about something this personal in this way?

It's like the internet has made "attention whoring" the centre of our economy.

allanmacgregor

4 hours ago

You are missing the best part, he closes the article offering a 50% discount on ChatGPT Premium

jalapenos

2 hours ago

Oh my... whole new level of grotesque

pols45

14 hours ago

And culture.

Kim Kardashians empire is now worth 5 billion $$$. These new life forms the attention ecosystem produces hardly resembles anything seen in the past. Everyday people start adopting celebrity techniques. Visibility is like oxygen to them, while the pre-attention ecosystem life treat it as exposure. We are seeing two diverging sub species.

abnercoimbre

11 hours ago

I'm being called an offliner lately, which is one of the two sub species.

satisfice

15 hours ago

I am with you on this. Geez.

You might as well say "I behaved irresponsibly and as I write this I am still irresponsible. What to do, O what to do??"

How about take responsibility for yourself?

alganet

13 hours ago

There is a lot of belief systems in place that shape how human relationships should be. Would you date someone that has a different political affiliation? Be friends with someone who holds different values? And so on...

Digital algorithms now play a role in those belief systems, and the broadcasting of lifes in those digital platforms is a key part of it.

The question "how to take responsibility for yourself?" and similar rejection attitudes nowadays act more like a public encouragement to self-shun. It is, in itself, an act of broadcasting with the explicit goal of interacting with such belief systems.

The most obscene thing you can do in such an arrangement of beliefs is to expose one of the belief systems. It is kind of an attention grabbing mechanism, but very different from Kardashian-style media presence. It's way, way more obscene.

satisfice

7 hours ago

I think it simpler than all that: it’s enacting social order. This is not weird or transgressive or obscene. With our individual words and deeds we create a conceptual terrain that constrains social behavior. It’s a form of marketing.

I get meaning from reminding my fellow adults about what it means to BE an adult, instead of a child. I am marketing a philosophy of living.

alganet

29 minutes ago

Tapestry of belief systems, conceptual terrain that constrains social behavior... same stuff.

I don't claim he is the one being obscene. I think he's quite conservative (the idea of AI influencing behavior is not new and his example is simplistic). I was talking about myself attempting to describe these dynamics in more clear cut terms.

It's also not universally obscene, it's obscene in a "everybody knows but you are not supposed to talk about it" way.

jaredsohn

13 hours ago

I don't think there is anything wrong with using AI to help make life decisions like this. You just need to know how to use AI, although people on average will misuse it in various ways.

But those people will probably make similar mistakes making decisions in other ways anyway.

I think there might be issues, though, as a lot of people initially trust AI as some oracle instead of using it to help organize their thoughts. And some people will likely never be able to use AI properly.

user

10 hours ago

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alganet

15 hours ago

You can't stop astrology. Humanity will never free itself from it. Someone you know probably uses it. Maybe that person will make decisions based on horoscope, and that in turn will affect your decisions.

I think AI is going to be very similar. And maybe it even develops a less virulent benign strain (like astronomy), but the bad one will hang around forever.

delichon

15 hours ago

My chatbot says that's a typical Aquarian attitude.

1659447091

14 hours ago

You may want to revisit your choice of chatbot -- it is clearly wrong. I see how it has a bias toward the typical Aquarian attitude by dismissing all the doom/gloom that gives away a Scorpio; and my chatbot agrees.

000ooo000

12 hours ago

A very pro-AI individual I know alerted me to ChatGPT's #1 use - Astrology - and was quite miffed that such an amazing technology would be wasted like this. All I could think instead was that Astrology being #1 gives us a pretty good idea of the kind of person who finds these LLMs useful.

zarmin

14 hours ago

Astrology is not horoscopes.

Stars and planets radiate energy. Some of that energy is visible light, most is not. Energy affects people physically and psychologically. The bodies in our solar system follow predictable cycles. To think that we are not affected by energy that hits the planet at regular intervals is silly. Does it control all of human behavior and events? Obviously not, but it's not doing nothing.

alganet

14 hours ago

Sure bro.

zarmin

12 hours ago

the cult of scientism

alganet

11 hours ago

I'm approaching astrology and horoscope from a more "social role" perspective than a strictly internet-atheist-boy one.

That's why I can put them together. They work together to create an effect in society. Astrology and horoscope belong together and support each other. Doesn't matter if one of them is less random.

The aspects you described (stars, cellestial bodies, energy) directly refer to scientific concepts. Which I find hilarious. It totally didn't started like that.

Look at what you said: light, kinds of energy. It totally is a domesticated strain of an earlier belief that was much different. The very domesticated strain you defend still supports the general idea of things like horoscope (in social dynamics terms), but it has come a long way in becoming more secular.

I would say my first description (a less virulent strain is possible) is spot on.

bell-cot

15 hours ago

Vs. a Magic 8 Ball can't smoothly talk you into making horrible decisions. And everything you tell it isn't being sold on and used to monetize you.