jhancock
15 hours ago
I've been using GLM-4.6 since its release this month. It's my new fav. Using it via Claude Code and the more simple Octofriend https://github.com/synthetic-lab/octofriend
Hosting through z.ai and synthetic.new. Both good experiences. z.ai even answers their support emails!! 5-stars ;)
hodgehog11
13 hours ago
My experience using GLM-4.6 with Charm Crush has been absolutely incredible, especially with high thinking. This is on pretty hard tasks too, e.g. proving small lemmas with Lean.
I've had much less luck with other agentic software, including Claude Code. For these kinds of tasks, only Codex seems to come close.
dkga
5 hours ago
I had good experience with Codex iterating to prove a fixed point theorem. But will also now consider GLM-4.6.
bravura
10 hours ago
How do you use a non Anthropic model with Claude Code?
jhancock
10 hours ago
they have a Claude Code specific endpoint...see the excellent docs https://docs.z.ai/devpack/tool/claude
theK
3 hours ago
Why don't companies have an about page on their home page any more? How an I supposed to know what z.foo is really about? Random page vibes?
</rant>
mchiang
15 hours ago
Z.ai team is awesome and very supportive. I have yet to try synthetic.new. What's the reason for using multiple? Is it mainly to try different models or are you hitting some kind of rate limit / usage limit?
riskable
2 hours ago
Z.ai is on the US Entities (banned from export/collab) list:
> “These entities advance the People’s Republic of China’s military modernization through the development and integration of advanced artificial intelligence research. This activity is contrary to the national security and foreign policy interests of the United States under Section 744.11 of the EAR.”
https://medium.com/ai-disruption/zhipu-ai-chinas-leading-lar...
tinfoilhatter
20 minutes ago
And Microsoft has been instrumental in helping to facilitate Israel's genocide of Palestinian people. Meta / Facebook did it in Myanmar. If you're paying to use any AI product, you're more than likely giving money to companies that either directly or indirectly contribute to genocide.
jhancock
15 hours ago
I tried synthetic.new prior to GLM-4.6...Starting in August...So I already had a subscription.
When z.ia launched GLM-4.6, I subscribed to their Coding Pro plan. Although I haven't been coding as heavy this month as the prior two months, I used to hit Claude limits almost daily, often twice a day. That was with both the $20 and $100 plans. I have yet to hit a limit with z.ai and the server response is at least as good as Claude.
I mention synthetic.new as it's good to have options and I do appreciate them sponsoring the dev of Octofriend. z.ai is a China company and I think hosts in Singapore. That could be a blocker for some.
mchiang
14 hours ago
Do you find yourself sticking with GLM 4.6 over Claude for some tasks? Or do you find yourself still wanting to reach for Claude?
jhancock
14 hours ago
I have been subscribing to both Claude and ChatGPT for over two years. Spent several months on Claude's $100 plan and couple months on ChatGPT's $200 plan but otherwise using their $20/month plans.
I cancelled Claude two weeks ago. Pure GLM-4.6 now and a tad of codex with my ChatGPT Pro subscription. I sometimes use ChatGPT for extended research stuff and non-tech.
bn-l
12 hours ago
$3 a month and using it in Claude code is a matter of changing a few env vars which you copy and paste from their docs. Cost benefit wise there is nothing better.
esafak
7 hours ago
codebje
11 hours ago
$6/month. It's $3 for the first month (or first months, on longer subscription cycles, but it's first unit of subscription cycle at half price only).
At $6/month it's still pretty reasonable, IMO, and chucking less than $10 at it for three months probably gets you to the next pop-up token retailer offering introductory pricing, so long as the bubble doesn't burst before then.