'Under tremendous pressure': Newsom vetoes long-awaited AI chatbot bill

12 pointsposted 4 months ago
by voxadam
(sfgate.com)

6 Comments

delichon

4 months ago

> he said he was concerned the law could “unintentionally” impose a total ban on the use of AI chatbots by minors.

To a lot of people here that's a feature. I don't think so. It would put California minors at a huge economic disadvantage to kids in other places. One state can't put AI back in the box. I think California has the right to run that experiment, but Newsom made a wise choice in stopping it.

bigyabai

4 months ago

> It would put California minors at a huge economic disadvantage to kids in other places.

This feels like conjecture. Can't we just as easily reason that kids with access to AI become complacent and reliant on non-authoritative sources?

I think we need a proper A/B test before we conclude these things for certain.

more_corn

4 months ago

From my speaking to teachers banning children from AI would result in a massive gain for them. Kids are phoning it in and having ai do all their thinking. They’re not learning to think and write and communicate.

Nasrudith

4 months ago

Have you heard the maxim that unenforceable laws only breed contempt for the law? Do you remember your days as a minor and how well forbidding the fruit worked?

This "for the children" law would be widely flouted.

user

4 months ago

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Terr_

4 months ago

OK, so this one bill (AB 1064) is an exception among a bunch of other related bills that are being signed into law, let's take a look at the text [0]... Huh, pleasingly shorter than expected, I'm not noticing any obvious "that'll backfire horribly" stuff...

> is not foreseeably capable

I'm not sure how much consistency there is in "foreseeably" when it comes to LLMs these days. Even among programmers, let alone the general public.

> 22757.22.(a)(5) [It may not foreseeably be capable of:] Prioritizing validation of the user’s beliefs, preferences, or desires over factual accuracy or the child’s safety.

So if a kid says "I like chocolate", and it says "Everybody does, it's yummy", isn't that technically a violation? How should a court rule if a lawsuit occurs?

[0] https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml...