Dear HN. Please make the Hacker News header stick to the top of the browser

6 pointsposted 5 months ago
by cbeach

Item id: 45269392

14 Comments

MBCook

5 months ago

Why do people like this so much? It seems every web site does it these days and I HATE it personally.

It takes up precious screen space for something that isn’t useful enough to need to be on screen constantly. And I can always just tap the top of the screen to jump to the top in a fraction of a second.

collingreen

5 months ago

Dear HN, please encourage more user control over the web instead. Wouldn't it be nice if it was easy to do this from within your own individual browser?

There are plenty of extensions and such to let you do stuff but it would be cool if it became easy and normal and built in for users to adjust and control their experience instead of all the ad- and spyware nonsense.

denkmoon

5 months ago

No thanks. You can do it client side if you care. Are you not a hacker?

hysan

5 months ago

Also voicing my opinion to please not do this. As a small phone + large font user, this would greatly reduce the amount of screen real estate. I think it would be a backwards step in accessibility for those with sight problems.

markus_zhang

5 months ago

Please don't. It reduces size and it's not far to pull up quickly.

Please make an option to turn it off if it is to be implemented.

wizzwizz4

5 months ago

Why do you need z-index?

  /* ==UserStyle==
  @name           HN sticky topbar
  @namespace      https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=wizzwizz4
  @version        1.0.0
  @description    Pins the HN topbar to the top of the viewport.
  @author         wizzwizz4
  ==/UserStyle== */
  
  @-moz-document domain("news.ycombinator.com") {
      #hnmain > tbody > tr:first-child {
          position: sticky;
          top: 0;
      }
  }
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/styl-us/

wizzwizz4

5 months ago

Adding a z-index was a hack to workaround the .rotate180 class creating a new stacking context, causing downvotes to be rendered over the sticky topbar. This is hella overengineered. https://news.ycombinator.com/triangle.svg is 131 bytes!

  <svg height="32" viewBox="0 0 32 16" width="32" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="m2 27 14-29 14 29z" fill="#999"/></svg>
Meanwhile, the relevant section of https://news.ycombinator.com/news.css is much larger:

  .rotate180 {
    -webkit-transform: rotate(180deg);  /* Chrome and other webkit browsers */
    -moz-transform:    rotate(180deg);  /* FF */
    -o-transform:      rotate(180deg);  /* Opera */
    -ms-transform:     rotate(180deg);  /* IE9 */
    transform:         rotate(180deg);  /* W3C complaint browsers */
  
    /* IE8 and below */
    -ms-filter: "progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.Matrix(M11=-1, M12=0, M21=0, M22=-1, DX=0, DY=0, SizingMethod='auto expand')";
  }
Just having a separate triangleup.svg and triangledown.svg would save bandwidth and rendering time, and make naïvely-written userstyles work properly! I thought Hacker News, of all websites, would be free from dodgy overengineered CSS…

wizzwizz4

5 months ago

This should be easy, but data URIs are fighting me. I've shoved another image there instead. Maybe someone else can get this working properly?

  /* ==UserStyle==
  @name           HN sticky topbar
  @namespace      https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=wizzwizz4
  @version        1.1.0-alpha
  @description    Pins the HN topbar to the top of the viewport.
  @author         wizzwizz4
  ==/UserStyle== */
  
  @-moz-document domain("news.ycombinator.com") {
      #hnmain > tbody > tr:first-child {
          position: sticky;
          top: 0;
      }
      .votearrow.rotate180 {
        transform: none;
        background-image: url(y18.svg);
      }
  }

Bender

5 months ago

This could probably be done in uBlock in My Filters.

anfractuosity

5 months ago

Yup the following seemed to work for me -

news.ycombinator.com###hnmain > tbody > tr:first-child:style( position: sticky; top: 0; z-index: 10;)

Bender

5 months ago

Confirmed that works here.

user

5 months ago

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