DHH – As I Remember London

20 pointsposted 5 months ago
by gpi

15 Comments

eaq

5 months ago

> Therefore, we’re asking everyone, including Jason and me, to refrain from using our company Basecamp or HEY to discuss societal politics at work effective immediately.

https://world.hey.com/dhh/basecamp-s-new-etiquette-regarding...

arrowsmith

5 months ago

Writing something on your personal blog isn't "discussing politics at work".

jleyank

5 months ago

Rules for thee, not for me. He’s using his corporate tools to do what he asked his people not to do.

arrowsmith

5 months ago

No he's not. He asked his employees to not discuss politics on the company's internal work channels. He didn't tell him to refrain from discussing politics outside of work (such as by posting to their personal blogs), in fact iirc he explicitly said that that was okay.

rammy1234

5 months ago

The definition of “native Brit” is vague — by ancestry? birthplace? passport? Seems like a rhetorical choice.

lazyatom

5 months ago

He links to some census statistics from Wikipedia about the demographic makeup of London over time, and then says:

> In 2000, more than sixty percent of the city were native Brits. By 2024, that had dropped to about a third

Those figures line up with the "White British" row of the table: 59.79% in 2001, 36.8% in 2021.

So it seems pretty clear his definition of "native Brit" means "White British person".

ettutateu

5 months ago

Good point. British people don't really exist. What are even English or Scottish people? French people? European people? Where does it start, where does it end? We don't know.

We don't know what a white person is. No idea, no clue. Where could we even start?

Funnily enough, though, those considerations never seem to apply to Palestinians, native Americans, indigenous Australians, etc. There is only a certain group that is somehow impossible to define precisely, yet is the primary target of those considerations.

pkd

5 months ago

I see you created the account to just post this so you're highly likely to not be worth the response but "native brit" is vague not because British people don't exist - there is a legal definition for that - but because Britain has been invaded and seen migration for millenia. Are Normans less native than Anglo-Saxons? Are the Celts the most native? Why do the Vikings and Franks get to assimilate into nativity but not the non-white? The answer to that is very clear - however people tend to hide it behind terms like "native".

blackbell

5 months ago

>but "native brit" is vague not because British people don't exist - there is a legal definition for that - but because Britain has been invaded and seen migration for millenia.

but "native african" is vague not because African people don't exist - there is a legal definition for that - but because Africa has been invaded and seen migration for millenia.

>but because Britain has been invaded and seen migration for millenia.

So has practically every other nation including those located in Palestine, Australia, and the Americas.

>Are Normans less native than Anglo-Saxons? Are the Celts the most native? Why do the Vikings and Franks get to assimilate into nativity but not the non-white? The answer to that is very clear - however people tend to hide it behind terms like "native".

Are Afrikaners less native than Bantus? Are Khoisans the most native? Why do Khoekhoen and San get to assimilate into nativity but not the White? The answer to that is very clear - however people tend to hide it behind terms like "native".

jleyank

5 months ago

Given the British empire, it can’t be British people because they spanned the world. All of the empire -> commonwealth had mobility. It’s skin tone, not culture. Unless this is the celts wanting to get the British isles back.

petralithic

4 months ago

I mean you can say that about literally every other peoples on the planet, so it's not very convincing.

user

5 months ago

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lordkrandel

5 months ago

Denmark, the great country. Not touched by wars. Not touched by mass migration. Yet Danish people preach. From the right wing. Doesn't matter. You will self extinguish in a few years, which you will spend blaming others.

jleyank

5 months ago

Err, sorta run over in the 40’s. Think they got a handle on wars and deportations.

rpgbr

5 months ago

Hey look, DHH going full xenophobic for no reason.