AfterHIA
5 days ago
It's a travesty that more computer people aren't familiar with Jeff and also his son Aza. Ubiquity is brilliant (I recently used Claude to create a functional Chrome port) and the idea of, "highly useable information appliances" is still years ahead of its time. To me it seems like the most, "visionary" voices have been largely ignored by the industry- Engelbart, Ingalls/Kay, Raskin(s), Brenda Laurel, Ted Nelson (...)
The funny thing is that given how crap things have gotten it doesn't seem like it would be very hard at all to architect a, "radically improved" version of modern computer interfaces. We even have LLMs to help facilitate parts of the system that might have been historically difficult to implement. Why not instead of building a, "modern" Windows or Mac OS you made a, "useable" version which was optimized to run on anything or could run with any stalling on a modern computer? I don't want Windows 11; I want Windows 25' I want it to work orders of magnitude faster than Windows 98 rather than using Moore's Law to create something that can, "do more with more resources but averages out to roughly the same experience as previous generations."
We're still effectively using the same computers we were using when I was a kid in the 1990s.
theamk
3 days ago
A lot of those "visionary" voices are simply envisioning something that is completely impractical to implement.
Ted Nelson's Xanadu is a great example - it's core idea was that information is never deleted. This was literally baked into design - the main data storage is "append only". So sounds good on paper, but how was this supposed to be practical, especially with the high cost of storage back then?
Or that "unified document" with a workspace - sounds great on paper, until you start to think about more general use cases. A friend gives you few dozens of files on floppy (or you download from BBS), and you want to pass them to next friend. How do you do this easily without concept of "files"?
So there is no surprise that industry ignores "visionaries". It's easy to make a prototype and show it on presentation, but it's hard to make something actually usable.
pixelpoet
3 days ago
I had the privilege of hanging out with Aza at a media lab kinda thing in California, my first trip to the US: https://sites.google.com/view/stochasticlabsfractalworkshop/...
Was a very memorable time, great research and great people <3
detourdog
3 days ago
Those luminaries have such dense ideas that practicalities require glossing over the details. Each one of their ideas has had mass adoption but the details are often lost in implementation. Each year it becomes more feasible for an individual to hold theirs ideals and produce a thing of quality. Mass production and the ease of distribution has never been more accessible. Their ideas will hit when the timing is right.
netdoll
5 days ago
Is this Chromium Ubiquity port publicized anywhere? I would love to try working with something like it again.
AfterHIA
5 days ago
I'd be happy to share the code when I'm back on my machine at home. I'm currently on a trip but I'll repost here when I get back. Cheers netdoll!