docsaintly
4 days ago
The article sure could use a picture.
Edit: now that I realize from the article its 16" circumference it's less surprising, and I can imagine what it would look like. The title should mention it is circumference.
js2
4 days ago
Second sentence in the second ("Game Play") section:
> Game play for 16-inch softball is mostly consistent with standard softball game play. In contrast to standard, or 12-inch (30.48 cm) softball, it is played with a ball 16 inches (40.64 cm) in circumference.
FWIW, softballs by are sold by their circumference, so it would be unconventional (and unwieldy) to change the page title to "16-inch circumference softball". And I mean, it should be obvious.
(I agree a photo would help and wiki pages are easy to edit, but I looked for a creative commons licensed 16" softball photo and couldn't find one.)
joemi
4 days ago
I don't think "it should be obvious". The world we live in is one where caber tossing, curling, boxing, cheese rolling, quidditch, and sepak takraw (to name just a few) are all sports. So "softball with a 16-inch diameter ball" really isn't so unbelievable of a concept that it should be obvious that it doesn't exist.
gwbas1c
4 days ago
One of the things I like about Hacker News is that, when someone throws around a vague sports term, there's a massive discussion to just figure out the heck they are talking about.
Reminds me about this thread about goats: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32191140
fsckboy
3 days ago
i'm not going to get on a soapbox if i can't understand a caber toss, curling, cheese rolling, qudditch or sepak takraw headline, and but i will climb that tallest soapbox in the middle of three and complain if headlines are all so unwieldy that i can glean all the info i don't know about every sport
also, a "16-in circumference softball" article still wouldn't even be allowed into the EU as it's not metric.
dylan604
4 days ago
a softball with a 16-inch diameter ball would really be unbelievable. A basketball is less than 10 inches, so imagine something ~2x the size of a basketball being swung at with a bat.
wredcoll
4 days ago
Yeah, that's why we clicked on the link.
A softball like 10% bigger isn't that interesting.
dylan604
4 days ago
if that was the only difference. the fact the ball is designed to get softer the longer it is played makes it so hits at the start of a game are different than at the end. fielders would learn this and change tactics based on that. normally, when the ball goes flat during a game, it is replaced. that in and of itself made it interesting to me as a standout feature.
gwbas1c
4 days ago
I played kickball as a kid; as a clumsy nerd it was a lot more fun.
I don't remember ever using a bat with a kickball, other than for laughs. It would work, though.
user
4 days ago
docsaintly
4 days ago
I would agree with "should be obvious" if this was a sports news website :D. Sorry, sometimes us nerds need more context or a title will seem misleading / clickbait-y.
gwbas1c
4 days ago
I clicked around https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4qCVWejYrA to see people playing and holding a "16 inch softball". It took me awhile to realize that it's the circumference too.
bigwheels
4 days ago
100% agree. In case it's helpful, here is the best image I was able to find: https://live.staticflickr.com/54/128223579_34056fb847_b.jpg
That's a pretty, uhm, big ball. I imagine it'd be highly entertaining to see the Savannah Bananas play with these 16 inchers!
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/NYPICH...
docsaintly
4 days ago
Thanks. That is indeed massive.
Cthulhu_
3 days ago
I wouldn't mind seeing 16" diameter softball now. It'd be like a gym ball.