raspyberr
2 days ago
It's funny that this roguelike is advertised as a roguelite and most roguelites are advertised as roguelikes.
mcv
a day ago
Yeah, the word "roguelike" seems to have rapidly lost its meaning these past couple of years.
darkfloo
a day ago
It was always pretty nebulous, relevant video by DoshDoshington https://youtu.be/FT6XfaHgyh0?si=xayqzhkkmYjB4_UC
dolni
a day ago
No, it wasn't always nebulous. Roguelike was a well-established genre for decades before it got hijacked and now means nothing.
Like all genres, games within the roguelike genre (or what some people call "traditional roguelikes") have some variance. But if you played two games in the "traditional roguelike" genre, you'd definitely feel the similarities.
These days if you pick two random games on Steam with the "roguelike" tag, you're going to get two experiences which are not even reminiscent of the other.
0x01FE
a day ago
Great video
GuB-42
a day ago
Nowadays, roguelike = permadeath + procedural generation, roguelite = roguelike with some elements that carry over the next game.
The actual roguelikes that look like Rogue: text based, turn-by-turn dungeon crawlers are often now called "traditional roguelikes".
At first glance, it looks like a traditional roguelike, but maybe some elements carry over, putting it in the "roguelite" territory.
mcv
a day ago
What do you mean by "carry over"? Even in Nethack, you can find the graves of previous characters.
dolni
a day ago
The meaning degraded much earlier than just a couple years ago. People thought it was cool so they latched onto it. It seems like that process started 7-8 years ago, maybe even a bit further back.
jghn
a day ago
I played a *lot* of rogue in the early 80s. I can't remember a single game marketed as a "roguelike" that I've played that reminded me of playing rogue.
mcv
a day ago
I haven't played Rogue, but I've played a lot of Moria, Nethack, and AdoM. Those are what I think of when I hear "Roguelike", although even AdoM might be stretching it a bit with its massive non-random outdoor area.
Der_Einzige
a day ago
The term for OG roguelikes is the "Berlin interpretation" of roguelikes.