Tariff's found illegal, but will stay for now

60 pointsposted 11 hours ago
by ajd555

26 Comments

duxup

11 hours ago

This whole thing where “well this is wrong but you have to pay the illegal tax anyway” makes no sense.

ajd555

11 hours ago

Definitely odd to see that the default is to let this keep happening, counterintuitive is a word that comes to mind

dillydogg

7 hours ago

Very similar to the old "only Congress can change the law where they agreed to create the department of education and it is unconstitutional to get rid of it without Congress, but we don't care if you fire every employee" gag

jerlam

8 hours ago

Similar to "you lost the election, but you have the same power for almost three months".

dragonwriter

2 hours ago

The Presidential transition is within a few days of one month after the voting in the election that elects the President (and even less time after those votes are counted.)

It’s about 2½ months after the elections in which the people that elect the President are elected, but that’s a whole separate election.

adastra22

2 hours ago

It’s in the constitution, and it made sense when it was written. A gradual transition of power still makes sense imo.

3eb7988a1663

9 hours ago

Violation of the Constitution? Guess we will continue to let it slide until some future date.

cosmicgadget

5 hours ago

Because they know scotus will overturn it and want to save people the trouble.

Probably something about the energetic executive needing to have total discretion over what a fentanyl emergency is and how to mitigate it.

user

5 hours ago

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deckar01

5 hours ago

Consider how many of these injunctions have been ignored, challenged, and gone through a separate appeals process, only to be struck down by a SCOTUS shadow docket ruling. I suspect the reasoning is that a final SCOTUS ruling will be faster by not issuing an immediate injunction.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/supr...

TimorousBestie

10 hours ago

It was the obvious consequence of SCOTUS getting rid of the nationwide TRO, but here we are anyway.

nine_zeros

4 hours ago

> This whole thing where “well this is wrong but you have to pay the illegal tax anyway” makes no sense.

There is a reason why faith in American judiciary is at an all time low. The government is doing illegal things with no repercussions. People are getting harmed. How can anyone trust the system?

awalsh128

an hour ago

The rulings coming out from the Supreme Court wreak of bias. This isn't uncommon and is checked by more of a balanced court but holy hell. I have no concept of jurisprudence and I can still see how blatantly partisan most of the rulings have been lately.

weard_beard

22 minutes ago

FYI Wreak - to cause, make happen, enact. Reek - stinks awfully like garbage.

I think you mean reek here.

toomuchtodo

11 hours ago

What does it look like when everyone sues to claw back the unlawful tariffs paid? YC startup opportunity (take a cut of whatever you claw back for customers).

hypeatei

10 hours ago

This would be hard to do given sovereign immunity. I highly doubt you'd get them to waive their immunity for an "official act" done by the President. The FTCA does allow for some exceptions but it's pretty narrow.

gamblor956

9 hours ago

TLDR the other comment's citations: The USG has already waived sovereign immunity with respect to improper customs duties, by statute.

This actually happens quite a bit, so there are well-established procedures for this. It's just never happened on this scale before.

user

10 hours ago

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saubeidl

30 minutes ago

Rule of law is dead in the US. It's sad watching it slide further and further into autocracy.

dmitrygr

7 hours ago

> Tariff's found illegal, but will stay for now

Can someone please fix the title? Apostrophes are not used like this.

bxsioshc

6 hours ago

But will stay for now.

cosmicgadget

5 hours ago

Nondelegation is about to disappear from the scotus vocabulary for a couple of months.

southwindcg

6 hours ago

Article title: "Trump’s Global Tariffs Found Illegal by US Appeals Court"