_pdp_
17 hours ago
The reason Typeform free tier limits are so strict is likely because they have run the numbers based on real usage data. I am sure those limits are designed to capture just enough free users who are likely to convert, while minimizing the risk of churn. It is tricky.
From my own experience, about two years ago we built an AI form builder tech demo on top of our platform. We open-sourced it (https://github.com/chatbotkit/example-nextjs-ai-forms) to see if there was community interest. Not much. Since it wasn't our core product, we pivoted and turned it into a low-cost Typeform alternative with unlimited forms - formshare.ai was born. And while we have seen some modest commercial success, I wouldn't claim it's anywhere near Typeform's scale.
The takeaway here is that for this project, even though it wasn't our primary focus, leading with open source and undercutting on price didn't prove to be an effective strategy. If anything, charging too little initially will only devalue the product and attract the wrong kind of users - the ones less likely to convert or stick around for the long term.
michaelbuckbee
16 hours ago
The other reason for free limits is limiting abuse/weirdness from malicious users.
summarity
14 hours ago
Or even more important: pathological users.
Actually malicious users are rare. Pathological users have a bias to be the _most_ demanding users when actually paying _the least_ (or nothing). It's a drain on every step in the support funnel. But what drives the business are users that both have a large scale of use and still have growth potential.
the worst tend to be just above the free tier, on the lowest paid plan available. Raising the minimum is an effective way to reduce this pain.
tomcam
4 hours ago
Analysis: true, based on 20+ years of owning successful online businesses and another 15 in the software business before that. I always gave my tech support teams full authority to fire customers like that.
The part that fascinated me most was that just reminding them they had that option seemed to make them much more tolerant than I expected, and out of say 2 million customers I'd guess fewer than a dozen were ejected. I guess it was a mental pressure valve.
immibis
8 hours ago
It is interesting how receiving the greatest benefit for the lowest cost is considered pathological, yet also the entire basis for our economic system.
tomcam
4 hours ago
It is interesting how receiving the greatest benefit for the lowest cost is considered pathological, yet also the entire basis for our economic system.
What I read from GP's comment was not that this was the tradeoff, it was that people who pay less than market value tend to be the most troublesome customers. I can tell you that holds true in any market I've ever consulted for or have used myself. B2B transactions tend to be much smoother than a visit to Popeye's on the average.qingcharles
5 hours ago
Formshare looks like a great product. Never seen an AI form like that. A product like that is 90% marketing, though. Trying to get that in front of people's eyeballs is hard work.