jfengel
3 days ago
It will be interesting to see next April. The government has been slashed for very modest sums, even in aggregate. People's tax bills will be no lower, and there's a good chance that the deficit will be higher.
I have no idea how much attention people actually pay to the final sum. It's never the same any two years in a row even if you made exactly the same salary. You just pay whatever number shows up on the bottom line (or deposit whatever check arrives).
monero-xmr
3 days ago
The real issue is so much of this stuff was superseded decades ago by technology. There was a woman on NPR moaning about how their funding to tell women to let babies sleep on their back will result in deaths https://www.npr.org/2025/05/05/nx-s1-5383871/trump-cuts-safe...
Doctors. The internet. We don’t need an entire apparatus to explain basic facts that can be a document sent via text message to new mothers in the hospital. The amount of useless busywork is absurd
Interesco
3 days ago
"After holding steady for years, sleep-related infant deaths rose by nearly 12% between 2020 and 2022, according to the most recent data. Researchers think the rise may be related to parents not getting the information on safe sleep they needed during the pandemic"
I'm not sure how many new mothers are taking the time to go through every unsolicited text they get. The majority of people consider printed media more trustworthy then online media [1] (I probably wouldn't click on a text message link with a headline about my newborn vs. a pamphlet provided by the hospital). There seems to be strong evidence that the "entire apparatus" did in fact work and was not superseded by text messages. I agree that there is a lot of useless busy work, but I don't think these cancellations are the way to address it
ty6853
3 days ago
My child was born during the beginning of the pandemic, when everyone* thought they were going to die. Doctors were falling over themselves to rush us out. The only education I recall was how to use a car seat to get our asses out of there. The normal protocols were definitely put on hold where we were, just make sure the baby will survive then eject.
* hyperbolic
user
3 days ago
apical_dendrite
3 days ago
Do you have experience in healthcare, particularly working with high needs populations?
There are often complex social issues that don't have easy technological solutions, and you might not understand what these issues are if you don't have that background.
I see a lot of arrogance from the tech industry - there are a lot of people who think they know all the answers, but they've made faulty assumptions about what the problems are, and they don't really have the curiosity or the experience to know better.
clarkevans
3 days ago
I'm not sure I understand your comment.
After birth, when new parents are sleep deprived, is a uniquely stressful time when parents are bombarded with information. Advice on the Internet is prolific and often wrong, raising anxiety without providing needed context-sensitive guidance. It looks like this program was providing trustworthy materials and outreach to reduce infant death.
monero-xmr
3 days ago
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clarkevans
3 days ago
Dissemination takes work. Materials in the right languages are needed. Finding the minimum necessary detail and visuals help. Delivery to new parents has to be done when they need the information, else they won't be receptive or remember. Then you need to get these materials into the birthing centers, to midwifes and nurses, etc. An evaluation component is also helpful to see if the approach can be improved, etc. Having this done in a repeatable way is important, every day there are new parents.
I don't see the price tag for this, but a few million dollars isn't all that much given the complexity of the dissemination challenge. It's probably a program but likely not an entire department. Curating knowledge and getting it to right people's attention at the right time is hard work. Did you see the materials they produce/disseminate?
apical_dendrite
3 days ago
If you were going to put a value on an infant's life for purposes of, say, settling a lawsuit, $10 million wouldn't be unreasonable. Think of that infant's earnings over their entire life, plus the loss to the parents. So the program would only need to save one or a handful of infant lives a year to be worth the cost, at least from an actuarial perspective. Eliminating the program is incredibly wasteful.
xorcist
3 days ago
That sounds like a sure way to ensure they don't get the info, buried as a bullet point among thousands (in a pdf).
multjoy
3 days ago
Do you value the lives of infants so poorly that you think a PDF will do it?
untrust
3 days ago
Did you read the article?
> Safe to Sleep created the public health messaging for this information and distributed it on social media, as well as in pamphlets targeted to specific groups, such as grandparents, and translated it into different languages. It also provided the materials to hospitals and doctor's offices to be handed out to patients.
Your proposed solution doesnt cover what this did. How would you classify this as busywork, if the end result can prevent infant deaths? This is a net loss to society if it gets shuttered entirely.
hooverd
3 days ago
People don't read. They do respond to nudges though.
gosub100
3 days ago
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rat87
3 days ago
You are allowed to be against waste a lot of things that people claim are waste aren't. A lot of things are relatively insignificant compared to the size of the full budget. More communication with parents on how to prevent infant deaths seems like a cheap and worthwhile thing to do rather then waste. Maybe you should have picked something else
apical_dendrite
3 days ago
From my perspective, it seems like tech bros are declaring everything they see to be waste without any real familiarity with the specific programs that they're cutting and without any cost-benefit analysis. The program that this poster highlighted - educational materials to prevent SIDS - seems incredibly cost-effective. The actuarial value of an infant's life is very high - certainly in the millions of dollars. And getting parents to understand what they need to do and change their behavior can be very difficult. Spending $10 million a year (to use the poster's number) to make sure that doctors have good educational materials in a variety of languages is worth it from a cost-benefit perspective if it saves a single infant life a year. What's your evidence that it isn't cost-effective?
heylook
3 days ago
Chesterton's fence is undefeated.
smt88
3 days ago
I agree the government is wasteful and could be streamlined, but that's not what Trump is doing.
It's instead a revenge campaign against perceived enemies of the GOP, and they have actually increased YoY spending so far.
And all of that is orthogonal to the central issue that the entire exercise is unconstitutional and authoritarian. Congress is explicitly given the power to set spending.
hooverd
3 days ago
Cutting government waste sometimes requires hiring more "inefficient bureaucrats". Oftentimes the existing structure is that they're capital allocators for armies of consultants. Nobody wants to go after that waste. Hell, the "waste" they've gone after, for example the CFPB, was recouping money! Government waste is a facade for the real belief, a dislike for a competent administrative state.
jagger27
3 days ago
You can argue plenty, like you’re doing right now. You’re doing yourself and your cause a disservice by being so black and white with your accusations. HN is chock full of people who agree with you. Go ahead and present compelling arguments for austerity. Just be prepared to defend them.
gosub100
3 days ago
It's even more fundamental than that. The debate of wasteful vs austere government isn't intellectually curious and goes against HN guidelines.