vjulian
9 hours ago
In the US, it seems to me that active listening is not encouraged, outside of music study. I find it odd that the average person can watch a movie and subsequently analyze it in a basic framework of plot, arc, protagonist and so forth—-yet when it comes to music there is ignorance and a lack of vocabulary.
imiric
9 hours ago
I'm not sure if the average person has the patience to sit through an entire movie anymore either, and not just in the US. Smartphones and social media have shortened our attention spans by making us crave for quick dopamine hits. I used to be able to watch an entire movie uninterrupted, whereas now if the movie is not engaging, I tend to reach for my phone.
Music enjoyment has also taken a back seat, and I usually put it on in the background while I'm focusing on something else, instead of actively listening to it. I think the shift from music being released as part of thematic albums on physical media to individual tracks on online services is part of the reason for this. The average music listener just hits shuffle on a random playlist rather than focusing on a specific band, album or even genre.
emchammer
4 hours ago
I would like to see Quentin Tarantino take on current-day issues. Who else is making movies worth watching any more besides Martin Scorsese? All the good movies have been made. Forbidden Planet was based on Shakespeare and it still shines. Generative AI tools show that it comes down to plots. I watched that Star Wars as a 1950s Panavision sci-fi at least a dozen times.
chb
9 hours ago
Education in the US has devolved to the point where music appreciation is only taught in the most prestigious of private primary and secondary schools, and perhaps in the public schools of wealthy neighborhoods.
urbanredeemer
9 hours ago
I’d like to find out what you think is really the problem. Do you believe inner-city schools aren’t funded enough to sit kids down and make them listen to Bach? Do you think kids in the rough parts of Milwaukee are just waiting for a bright-eyed teacher to play the right tape for the class? Every one of those kids has access to YouTube. Spotify is free. It isn’t the 1980s anymore, and “lack of access” isn’t why some groups like classical while others prefer drill music. Universal global access to high art and the tools of cultural creation have dispelled a great many blank-slate myths.
luqtas
8 hours ago
dunno if vocabulary and theory background actually is useful for appreciation/experience
btw, i'm still waiting an EDM club/rave with non damaging volume levels where no one is allowed to talk on the dance-floor
urbanredeemer
9 hours ago
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beepbooptheory
9 hours ago
Is this anecdotal? Feels like we live in very different worlds if so. But if this is maybe just more from watching the news, I can understand why you believe it.
But just know we are all out here, outside the tubes, living in a society! Its messy, but people are still people, and most everyone is kind if you just talk to them.
You simply must not just watch the news or viral Karen videos or whatever and use it all as your only basis for such an utter fatalism. Not for any moral reason or anything else, but truly just for your own emotional well being. You will have happier days.
urbanredeemer
5 hours ago
As one who has been around for a while, has lived in various US and European cities both big and small, and who currently lives in a pleasant mid-sized city nonetheless plagued by our uniquely American problems, this comment strikes me as the critters in Animal Farm discussing how much better life got after the Revolution. The implicit message of menace towards those who disagree is no less clear.
beepbooptheory
4 hours ago
Im sorry that you felt menace. Good luck with all your problems! Happiness is overrated anyway, its better to be realistic about human nature right? One day I'm sure ill be as wise and worldly as you, I just need to shake off all this unfounded optimism! Don't worry, you have helped with that a little I suspect, so thank you so much for the dose of hard reality.