Twitter's heir apparent isn't X or Threads – it's Bluesky

31 pointsposted a year ago
by miles

27 Comments

spondylosaurus

a year ago

I'm genuinely enjoying Bluesky, even more now than I was a year ago when it was a comparative ghost town, but in the back of my head I'm worried about the long-term financials of it. They're operating 100% off VC money right now, yeah? When that runs out, how much will it cost to keep the site afloat, and how far will they have to go to get it?

I know that the AT protocol at least offers a lifeboat against the "uh oh they overmonetized everything" problem, so that's nice, but I'm curious what their plans are, if anything.

bee_rider

a year ago

Hopefully Twitter doesn’t get a heir and the whole concept dies.

There’s a weird distinction in Twitter, or something, between the tweets (which are, like, a single post in a discussion, but oddly emphasized) and the comments below them, which are, like, just as much part of the discussion but smaller for some reason.

A site that is: what people thought Reddit was supposed to be before it sold out (communities, mostly self-moderated), would be much better.

unshavedyak

a year ago

So i agree with you partly, but Reddit suffers too imo. Notably it feels like the arbitrary walls of Subreddits impose friction that is painful.

I feel like what i personally want is a Twitter-like UX but with content organized automatically like Reddit.

Ie i want to follow topics, like Reddit, but without the walls - like Twitter. Twitter has tags, sure, but that assumes people use them well.

Bluesky might have this a big with moderated feeds? Just not sure how well a feed can start opting into topics.

lowyek

a year ago

Are there any social aggregator networks? TBH I don't care about politics or anything - I just need latest updates on topics i like summarised.

colesantiago

a year ago

Is there a reason Mastodon isn't listed here as an open alternative? Not a single word of it in this article.

Surely it should have significantly benefited from the X exodus?

What can Mastodon do other than be user friendly like BlueSky to be on the radar as a true alternative to these corporate or VC backed social networks?

michelledepeil

a year ago

I've seen reports of the fediverse getting a bump in users. End of the day you will almost never see news about it because it has no marketing budget, and offers no investment opportunity. Money talks.

It remains imo the best social platform because of those reasons.

rsynnott

a year ago

By one count, Mastodon has been stable at about a million users for the last year; this hasn’t increased significantly with the rise of Bluesky, and may have dipped a bit. I would suspect that a more viable Bluesky is cannibalising some users from Mastodon; anecdotally I use Mastodon less since Bluesky has become more viable over the last month or so.

Zigurd

a year ago

Just as Android is a popular Linux kernel-based OS because it discarded the desktop Linux userland, Bluesky is, successfully it turns out, a case of being open, federated, and popular because they focused on product, not on existing standards that hadn't quite hit critical mass.

slowmovintarget

a year ago

> What can Mastodon do...?

Be centrally managed and accessible from a single point... But then it wouldn't be Mastodon.

timeon

a year ago

When Twitter was sold there were many articles about Mastodon, but it seems that BlueSky got critical mass now.

DavideNL

a year ago

So how is Bluesky going to pay for the costs involved?

Personally, i hope once the Ads start appearing on Bluesky, everyone will move to the open-source Mastodon... - which relies on community support and contributions for development and sustainability.

sidcool

a year ago

I had expected better arguments. Not convincing. Current rise in Blue sky users is due to election results. People will go back to Twitter.

spondylosaurus

a year ago

Anyone who left Twitter for political reasons is unlikely to return. The climate there has long since passed the tipping point.

tracerbulletx

a year ago

No it's over, critical mass has been reached. Bluesky won.

krapp

a year ago

I don't see why people would go back to Twitter if they find the experience on Bluesky better, regardless of why they moved.

bayesianbot

a year ago

As really active ex-user of Twitter I suddenly had no reason to open it anymore as my feed in there is now less active than on Bluesky - most of the people I liked to follow either made the move or are double posting. There's just no reason to open Twitter anymore and I'm not really sure how it would change.

cactacea

a year ago

Agree the article could have been better written but I don't think the fundamentals behind why people are leaving the corporate internet behind are going to change soon. Nobody that left because of trolling and abuse is going back for instance.

talldayo

a year ago

> People will go back to Twitter

What's Twitter?

not_your_vase

a year ago

It all boils down to the one and only techbro that you should like. All other techbros are false-prophets, and by proxy their short-text based social network is also bad.

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a year ago

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a year ago

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talldayo

a year ago

> the people who want to control every aspect of your life [...] hate Musk

But Musk is a politician that controls a large portion of people's lives. He markets cars that people trust with their lives, he owns a social media that fewer and fewer people continue to trust, and he lies to Americans in order to fund Chinese job creation and rake in government subsidies for literal vaporware products.

It frankly seems like Musk is the one controlling things and people are right to call him out for changing things for the worse. It also sounds like Elon has an asshole personality, which people clearly don't respond well to. If you think "woke astroturfing" is bad, you should see how American taxpayers respond to people claiming they don't respect Elon enough. We respect him alright, but he doesn't respect us.

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a year ago

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