MS Flight SIM 2024 sucks up to 180 Mb/s of bandwidth in flight

10 pointsposted 12 hours ago
by LorenDB

14 Comments

PeterStuer

8 hours ago

If it is not procedurally generated terrain the data has to come in sometime, either beforehand or just in time. This looks like a worst case scenario. Fast flight over densly structired terrains with zero precaching at higest detail settings?

JojoFatsani

12 hours ago

Forgive my ignorance, is this game being rendered remotely and streamed to the client? If so, I can’t say I find those numbers too extraordinary. 4K+ streaming moves a lot of bits.

positr0n

9 hours ago

Streaming the terrain/image world data. You can fly anywhere in the world so it's basically streaming Google Maps satellite view as you fly around.

orra

6 hours ago

I know video streamers cheap out on bandwidth, but 180Mbps is about four times larger than a full fidelity 4k encoding, no?

Also, if anybody else was pushing this bandwidth on Azure it'd bankrupt them. I presume Microsoft are giving themselves an anticompetitive advantage (instead of making their fees fairer).

jpc0

4 hours ago

2160x3840x8 per frame uncompressed, for 8 bit video... Even at 24fps that exceeds 1 Gbps.

So "full fidelity" means ~8:1 compression ratio? At 60 fps it's closer to 4 Gbps so ~20:1?

Not to mention 8 bit video is not great and susceptible to banding as well as in general already concidered compressed in color space even when "uncompressed".

You can probably get away with streaming it at that quality but by any of my definitions it's not close to high fidelity.

orra

2 hours ago

Sorry, full fidelity was lax terminology. What I really meant using a modern lossy codec (e.g. AV1 or H.265) at a high bitrate, so there is no perceptible loss.

I was under the impression 50Mbps was very good, even for 10-bit HDR 4K.

ClassyJacket

12 hours ago

This is great for me as an Australian because the past government changed the NBN from fibre to copper and instead of gigabit the fastest I can get is 25mbps that doesn't work when it's raining.

But no it's okay because they told me nobody would ever need more than 25 megabit ever. No possible application for greater speeds would ever be thought up, they assured us.

SavageBeast

12 hours ago

The government always knows the right solution don't they! We really should put them in charge of everything.

smt88

12 hours ago

My understanding is that the progressive party in Australia had a plan to bring fiber to a lot more of the country, and then the conservative regime that followed it basically demolished the plan to benefit a private corporation (Foxtel) owned by Rupert Murdoch.

So it seems the government was doing something good, but then the conservative party took power and was partially in the pocket of Rupert Murdoch, partially just against the government doing something useful.

razakel

3 hours ago

The government can't do anything right when you elect people who believe the government can't do anything right.

Or, in other words, stop listening to Rupert Murdoch.

bigfatkitten

10 hours ago

Fast internet won't help you build houses or sell rocks to China.

smt88

5 hours ago

Fast internet increases the percentage of the country that's desirable to live in, which is an incentive for people to move there and demand new housing be built.

The more desirable small towns and rural places are, the less of a housing crunch there is. A lot of housing supply issues are due to rapid urbanization over the last few decades.

Big cities have skyrocketing housing prices while some small towns are literally paying people to move there.