stareatgoats
a year ago
Except, the structure isn't 3500 years old. The find is no doubt interesting but the Greeks did not start their colonization until almost 1000 years later, as the actual article text explains. The settlement might be 3500 years old, but the Greeks (who build the structure) came much later.
The editorialized title here makes an already sensationalist heading just - incorrect.
gerdesj
a year ago
The settlement as a whole is described as 3,500 years old.
The Greek bit is described as: "The project uncovered a massive Greek rampart, a type of defensive wall, from at least 2,000 years ago."
The title is: "Remains of a 3,500-year-old Settlement and Massive Ancient Greek Structure found in Croatia"
There are far too many capital letters, a missing "a" and some odd hyphens are sprinkled with gay abandon but that's fine. The intent is clear from the title and it is not inconsistent with the article.
You might infer that the only date cited in the title applies to both the settlement and the Greek structure but that is not a valid English grammatically enforced conclusion. Instead, why not look at the rest of the title? Note it is clearly written as a second language (or the writer might simply have a scatter gun approach to caps and dashes) and then go with the flow.
Please reserve judgement until you have read the article and digested it properly and please bear in mind that having to popularise your work in a foreign language is probably a right old pain that these archaeologists have simply just had to get to grips with as a fact of life in a world where the language of the Francs is English!
stareatgoats
a year ago
I think you must have written your comment right after Dang changed the title, and so were not aware of this change, nor the original title here on HN (~"3500-year-old Greek structure found in Croatia"). It doesn't make sense otherwise TBH.
dang
a year ago
Ok, we've taken 3500 years out of the title above.
INTPenis
a year ago
Yeah it's very confusing. The original article[1] (Croat here) actually only mentions strata going into different periods, not exact years of age. It shows the area has been settled through the prehistory, helenistic and roman periods, and into the medieval period.
1. https://min-kulture.gov.hr/vijesti-8/u-stobrecu-otkriveni-na...
user
a year ago
Suppafly
a year ago
I was reading somewhere, probably here or reddit, that the concept of 'ancient Greeks' is mostly made up with things attributed to them really having been done by the previous people who populated the region.